I've been working with a small group of people on a coding project for fun. It's an organized and fairly cohesive group. The people I work with all have various skill sets related to programming, but some of them use older or outright wrong methods, such as excessive global variables, poor naming conventions, and other things. While things work, the implementation is poor. What's a good way to politely ask or introduce them to use better methodology, without it coming across as questioning (or insulting) their experience and/or education?


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糟糕的命名习惯:总是不可原谅的。

是的,不要总是认为你的方式更好……这可能很困难,但必须保持客观性。

I've had an experience with a coder that had such horrible naming of functions, the code was worse than unreadable. The functions lied about what they did, the code was nonsensical. And they were protective/resistant to having someone else change their code. when confronted very politely, they admitted it was poorly named, but wanted to retain their ownership of the code and would go back and fix it up "at a later date." This is in the past now, but how do you deal with a situation where they error is ACKNOWLEDGED, but then protected? This went on for a long time and I had no idea how to break through that barrier.

Global variables: I myself am not THAT fond of global variables, but I know a few otherwise excellent programmers that like them A LOT. So much so that I've come to believe they are not actually all that bad in many situations, as they allow for clarity, ease of debugging. (please don't flame/downvote me :) ) It comes down to, I've seen a lot of very good, effective, bug free code that used global variables (not put in by me!) and great deal of buggy, impossible to read/maintain/fix code that meticulously used proper patterns. Maybe there IS a place (though shrinking perhaps) for global variables? I'm considering rethinking my position based on evidence.

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人们编写糟糕的代码只是无知的一种症状(这与愚蠢不同)。这里有一些对付这种人的技巧。

Peoples own experience leaves a stronger impression than something you will say. Some people are not passionate about the code they produce and will not listen to anything you say Paired Programming can help share ideas but switch who's driving or they'll just be checking email on their phone Don't drown them with too much, I've found even Continuous Integration needed to be explained a few times to some older devs Get them excited again and they will want to learn. It could be something as simple as programming robots for a day TRUST YOUR TEAM, coding standards and tools that check them at build time are often never read or annoying. Remove Code Ownership, on some projects you will see code silos or ant hills where people say thats my code and you can't change it, this is very bad and you can use paired programming to remove this.

我总是说‘这就是我要做的’。我不会试图教训他们,告诉他们他们的代码是垃圾,而只是给他们一个不同的观点,希望能向他们展示一些明显更整洁的东西。

我穿上长袍,打开一罐苏格拉底方法。

苏格拉底方法以古希腊哲学家苏格拉底的名字命名,是一种哲学探究的形式,提问者探究他人立场的含义,以激发理性思考和阐明思想。这种辩证方法经常涉及到一种对立的讨论,在这种讨论中,一种观点的辩护与另一种观点相对抗;一个参与者可能会导致另一个人在某种程度上自相矛盾,加强询问者自己的观点。

这完全取决于你写作的文化。在一个自由软件项目中,你告诉他们他们写的代码不好,并给出积极的建议、改进方法和反馈。你也可以给他们的代码发送一个补丁。

一封友好的电子邮件也不会有什么坏处。

开始进行代码评审或结对编程。

如果团队不愿意这么做,那就尝试每周设计回顾。每周开一个小时的会,讨论一段代码。如果人们看起来很有戒心,那就选择那些没有人在情感上依恋的旧代码,至少在一开始是这样。

正如@ jesere所说,关注代码,而不是编码员。

当你看到一些你认为应该不同的东西,但别人不这么看的时候,那就开始问一些导致缺陷的问题,而不是指出它们。例如:

Globals:你认为我们还会想要更多这样的东西吗?你认为我们会想要控制它的使用权吗?

可变状态:你认为我们想要从另一个线程操纵它吗?

我还发现关注自己的局限性很有帮助,这可以帮助人们放松。例如:

长功能:我的大脑不够大,不能一次容纳所有这些。我们怎样才能做出更小的我能处理的东西呢?

坏名声:在阅读清晰的代码时,我很容易感到困惑;当名字被误导时,我就没有希望了。

最终,你的目标不是教会你的团队如何更好地编码。而是在你的团队中建立一种学习的文化。每个人都向他人寻求帮助,成为更好的程序员。