最近Stack Overflow上有一群讨厌perl的人,所以我想我应该把我的“关于你最喜欢的语言你讨厌的五件事”的问题带到Stack Overflow上。拿你最喜欢的语言来说,告诉我你讨厌它的五件事。这些可能只是让你烦恼的事情,承认的设计缺陷,公认的性能问题,或任何其他类别。你只需要讨厌它,它必须是你最喜欢的语言。

不要拿它和其他语言比较,也不要谈论你已经讨厌的语言。不要用你最喜欢的语言谈论你喜欢的事情。我只是想听到你讨厌但能容忍的东西,这样你就可以使用所有其他的东西,我想听到你希望别人使用的语言。

每当有人试图把他们最喜欢的语言强加给我时,我就会问这个问题,有时是面试问题。如果有人找不出他最喜欢的工具的5个缺点,那他对它还不够了解,不能提倡它,也不能利用它赚大钱。他还没有在足够多的不同情况下使用它来充分探索它。他把它作为一种文化或宗教来倡导,这意味着如果我不选择他最喜欢的技术,我就错了。

我不在乎你用什么语言。不想使用特定的语言?那就不要。你通过尽职调查做出了明智的选择,但仍然没有使用它?好吧。有时正确的答案是“你有一个强大的编程团队,有良好的实践和丰富的Bar经验。改成Foo是愚蠢的。”


This is a good question for code reviews too. People who really know a codebase will have all sorts of suggestions for it, and those who don't know it so well have non-specific complaints. I ask things like "If you could start over on this project, what would you do differently?" In this fantasy land, users and programmers get to complain about anything and everything they don't like. "I want a better interface", "I want to separate the model from the view", "I'd use this module instead of this other one", "I'd rename this set of methods", or whatever they really don't like about the current situation. That's how I get a handle on how much a particular developer knows about the codebase. It's also a clue about how much of the programmer's ego is tied up in what he's telling me.

憎恨并不是衡量人们了解多少的唯一尺度,但我发现它是一个相当不错的尺度。他们讨厌的事情也让我知道他们对这个话题的思考有多好。


当前回答

Python:

No standard GUI toolkit (the community goes round and round about this but never seems to settle on anything). The evolution of tools and methods to distribute and install Python apps and libraries has been, well, rocky. (Although lately this seems to be moving closer to getting fixed.) CPython is still slow as interpreters go (although PyPy is looking pretty good these days, if it becomes the "standard" Python this problem goes away). You can't subclass built-in classes (e.g., list and dict) without overriding a lot of methods, even if all you want to do is a simple hook into an event (e.g., to hook into an item being added to or removed from the list, you need to override delitem, append, extend, insert, pop, and remove--there's no subclassable "change" event notification, nor any "protected" methods that factor out common code used by all the above methods). Up until virtualenv was invented, keeping separate Python environments for different purposes on one machine was a real pain.

其他回答

C++

编写一个简单的代码片段要花很多时间。 对于(std::vector::const_iterator iter =[…] Vector.remove()不移除。 Vector.push_front()不存在。 头文件 没有λ 如果至少有一个虚函数,则没有自动空虚析构函数。

我讨厌c++的五个方面

联系时间。使用分布式构建,我可以在同一时间重新构建我们的整个项目,它需要我们的链接器运行。 没有防止内存操作重新排序的标准方法。使用写组合内存通常需要滥用volatile关键字。防止读重排序(在处理SIMD数学管道时通常是优化的关键)通常是通过在例程中间注入空ASM块来实现的。 多步宏来解决字符串化问题:

#define STR_LINE2(x) #x
#define STR_LINE(x)   STR_LINE2(x)
#define LINE_NUMBER STR_LINE(__LINE__)

做字符串操作通常是很痛苦的。 大量的非标准化printf变体(vsnprintf_s vs _vsnprintf_s)。

Emacs Lisp

目前还没有足够的商业市场让人们全职用elisp编码 GNU Emacs vs XEmacs不兼容 Scheme中的嵌套函数很整洁,我希望elisp有[1]的概念 用于简单遍历列表的do循环或其他一些工具不是标准的(当然,您现在可以使用lambda进行映射)[1] (function (lambda(…)))[1]应该有一个简写

当然,Lisp的一个美妙之处在于,用一行代码在你自己的代码中修复这些问题并不难。但这并不是与生俱来的,这让我很恼火。

好的问题;我有点不好意思,因为我想不出更好的东西来恨,但说实话,法官大人,没什么好恨的。

JavaScript

Function object syntax: f = new Function( "foo", "bar", "return foo+bar;" ); (It takes n arguments, the first n-1 are arguments for the function, then nth is the actual function, in string form. Which is just silly.) Function arguments can be repeated. f = new Function( "foo", "foo", "return foo;" ); The last repetition is the only one ever used, though: f( "bye", "hi" ) // returns "hi" f( "hi" ) // returns undefined E4X should just die. My users are always complaining that it doesn't work the way they think it will. Let's face it, when you need a page and a half of psuedocode for a setter, it's time to rethink things. A standard notion of stdin/stdout/stderr (and files!) would be nice. null != undefined It's irritating to have to handle them both. Sometimes it's useful, but most languages manage to limp along fine with one.

我偶尔会用我喜欢的PHP,而Python会用得太多。

No namespace; everything is in a kind of very big namespace which is hell in bigger environments Lack of standards when it comes to functions: array functions take a needle as a first argument, haystack as second (see array_search). String functions often take the haystack first, needle second (see strpos). Other functions just use different naming schemes: bin2hex, strtolower, cal_to_jd Some functions have weird return values, out of what is normal: This forces you to have a third variable declared out of nowhere while PHP could efficiently interpret an empty array as false with its type juggling. There are near no other functions doing the same. $var = preg_match_all('/regexp/', $str, $ret); echo $var; //outputs the number of matches print_r($ret); //outputs the matches as an array The language (until PHP6) does its best to respect a near-retarded backward compatibility, making it carry bad practices and functions around when not needed (see mysql_escape_string vs. mysql_real_escape_string). The language evolved from a templating language to a full-backend one. This means anybody can output anything when they want, and it gets abused. You end up with template engines for a templating language... It sucks at importing files. You have 4 different ways to do it (include, include_once, require, require_once), they are all slow, very slow. In fact the whole language is slow. At least, pretty slower than python (even with a framework) and RoR from what I gather.

不过,我仍然喜欢PHP。这是网页开发的电锯:你想要一个小型到中型网站的速度非常快,并确保任何人都可以托管它(尽管配置可能不同)?PHP就在那里,它无处不在,只需要5分钟就可以安装一个完整的LAMP或WAMP堆栈。好吧,我现在要回去用Python工作了……