最近Stack Overflow上有一群讨厌perl的人,所以我想我应该把我的“关于你最喜欢的语言你讨厌的五件事”的问题带到Stack Overflow上。拿你最喜欢的语言来说,告诉我你讨厌它的五件事。这些可能只是让你烦恼的事情,承认的设计缺陷,公认的性能问题,或任何其他类别。你只需要讨厌它,它必须是你最喜欢的语言。

不要拿它和其他语言比较,也不要谈论你已经讨厌的语言。不要用你最喜欢的语言谈论你喜欢的事情。我只是想听到你讨厌但能容忍的东西,这样你就可以使用所有其他的东西,我想听到你希望别人使用的语言。

每当有人试图把他们最喜欢的语言强加给我时,我就会问这个问题,有时是面试问题。如果有人找不出他最喜欢的工具的5个缺点,那他对它还不够了解,不能提倡它,也不能利用它赚大钱。他还没有在足够多的不同情况下使用它来充分探索它。他把它作为一种文化或宗教来倡导,这意味着如果我不选择他最喜欢的技术,我就错了。

我不在乎你用什么语言。不想使用特定的语言?那就不要。你通过尽职调查做出了明智的选择,但仍然没有使用它?好吧。有时正确的答案是“你有一个强大的编程团队,有良好的实践和丰富的Bar经验。改成Foo是愚蠢的。”


This is a good question for code reviews too. People who really know a codebase will have all sorts of suggestions for it, and those who don't know it so well have non-specific complaints. I ask things like "If you could start over on this project, what would you do differently?" In this fantasy land, users and programmers get to complain about anything and everything they don't like. "I want a better interface", "I want to separate the model from the view", "I'd use this module instead of this other one", "I'd rename this set of methods", or whatever they really don't like about the current situation. That's how I get a handle on how much a particular developer knows about the codebase. It's also a clue about how much of the programmer's ego is tied up in what he's telling me.

憎恨并不是衡量人们了解多少的唯一尺度,但我发现它是一个相当不错的尺度。他们讨厌的事情也让我知道他们对这个话题的思考有多好。


当前回答

Python:

1) It's a scripting language and not a fully compiled one (I'd prefer to be able to compile binaries—I don't care about bytecode). This is very annoying if I have to use very many libraries (i.e. everyone who uses my program has to install all the libraries, and this basically means no normal people will be able to, or have the patience to, properly set it up—unless I do a ton of work that should be unnecessary). I know ways to make binaries, but they don't always work, and I'm guessing they bundle the interpreter in the binaries anyhow (and I don't want that). Now, if I could get a bytecode compiler that would include copies of all the files that I imported (and only those) to be placed in my program's folder, that might be a suitable compromise (then no one would have to download extra libraries and such). It would also be nice if the compiled python files could be compressed into a single file with one specified as the file to run the program before this is done.

2)有时看起来有点bug;有几次,应该工作的代码根本没有工作(没有程序员错误),特别是与“from moduleX import *”和其他导入相关的问题有关的代码,以及一些与全局和局部变量有关的问题。

3)最大递归深度可以更高。至少有一次,我觉得我需要它去更高的地方。

4)没有switch语句(更不用说允许数字、字符串和范围的语句)

5)新版本的Python似乎取消了很多有用的字符串操作,而且似乎没有简单的文档说明如何在没有它们的情况下做同样的事情。

6)强制自动垃圾收集(我希望能够手动执行,尽管不一定强制执行)。

7)没有预先制作的定时器类没有使用GUI(好吧,可能有一个,但在我所做的所有搜索之后,它肯定不方便找到!我确实找到了一些东西,但当我尝试时,它根本不起作用。)所谓计时器,我指的是每隔x秒执行一个指定函数的排序,并能在需要时关闭它,等等。

8)社区里举例的人很少告诉我们他们导入了哪些模块,以及他们是如何导入的。

9)与Lua集成的支持并不多。

10)似乎没有办法向一个类的特定实例(而不是整个类)添加一个额外的函数,除非你动态地向该类添加一个对象变量,该对象具有所需的函数(但仍然,你必须为此创建另一个类)。

其他回答

我觉得最喜欢的语言是不可能选择的。动态类型和静态类型不能进行比较,所以我只列出我使用的是哪一种类型

C++:

Template metaprogramming syntax is ugly. An implicit ::value would make it much more concise ->. Why can't the compiler figure out that I'm doing a ptr.thing and just do -> for me? I hate whitespace. So the whole vector<vector<int>> has to be vector<vector<int> > makes me get the jitters and then I can't focus whenever I see that line of code and I end up trying to figure out a way to use int[][] or something Macros. I personally love the concept of macros. But with C++, I that the system is a hack I'm a hater of ;

Python:

字符串是不可变的。这样我就不能用string[4]="b" 通过引用隐式复制列表。哪个泄漏到[[0]*width]*height问题 缺少尾递归(每当我输入错误递归函数时,我必须安装IDLE以避免吐出1000条错误消息) 字典键不接受列表/字典 缺乏深度范围。当我做一个列表推导时,我不希望其中的变量影响到外部作用域

BrainF * ck

你的亮点是图灵完备?!我可以在Perl正则表达式中做更多的事情! 缺少对象。来吧,人!就像,你好… 没有网络库。我只想刮一个网页,天哪。 没有一级函数。恭喜你——你可以同情你的Java朋友了。 一个无限的磁带存储,没有其他。这是如此的矫情,我们可能还在写Lisp。

.NET框架(库)

嵌套类型很少使用(例如MessageBoxButton应该是MessageBox.Button) 可变结构体(Rect, Point) 系统名称空间中有太多东西 太多不同的平等概念(对象。等于,对象。ReferenceEquals, operator ==, operator !=, IComparable.CompareTo() == 0) 数组的成员是可变的,但长度是不变的。

还有一点:

XmlSerialization不适用于不可变类型

Oracle SQL

DUAL表。 不能通过别名分组。 我永远记不住分析函数的语法,所以我忘记/懒得使用它们。 缺少组合的LIKE和IN条件运算符。(不过,在10g之后,有一个REGEX_LIKE操作符可以做到这一点。) 笨拙的连接语法。

SQL并不是我最喜欢的语言,但它是我每天使用的三大语言之一。可能还有更多的项目,但这些是我脑海中最重要的。

我有一大堆SQL*PLUS的问题。我写了一个Perl的替代品,从命令行做我想做的,我使用sql。Emacs中的el用于交互式SQL会话。这些工具可以帮助我解决SQL*PLUS问题。


说到这里:

Perl

"Only perl can parse Perl." (But this is mostly an issue in syntax highlighting, which I don't prefer to use much anymore for any language.) I'm sometimes surprised by "the simple (but occasionally surprising) rule...: It looks like a function, therefore it is function, and precedence doesn't matter." (From perlfunc(1)) Dereferencing complex data structures can be confusing at times. I can't decide if this is a true flaw in Perl or just a consequence of having really powerful data structure facilities. Either way, I can normally get it right by taking a few minutes to think about what I'm doing. No option to cause system calls to raise their errors like the DBI module. (Thanks to brian d foy, I now know the autodie module on CPAN does this, but I'd like it built-in.) Warnings and strictures not enabled by default in scripts. (The -e option would turn them off for command line use.)

同样,肯定还有更多的事情,但这些是我最近注意到的问题。我还要加上=over and =back和古怪的L<…>语法在POD中,但也许那应该是一个单独的列表。


现在来看看三连冠:

康壳牌

Sourcing a file with arguments replaces the values of the parent script's arguments. (Executing . file arg1 puts arg1 in $1.) ksh is not an ideal interactive shell and defaults to vi key-bindings, rather than emacs. (My solution is to use bash for interactive shells.) Common utilities (such as grep) are implemented differently across different platforms thereby preventing perfect portability. Some useful commands need to be installed on some platforms and are part of the OS core on others. The syntax for conditionals is overly heavy. (if [ ... ]; then ... fi) Although it is Turing Complete, you are eventually going to want to move up to a more expressive language like Perl.

第4个问题的一个解决方案是习惯短路评估:

[ ... ] && ...

C#

泛型参数是不变的,c# 4.0为泛型类型引入了协方差和逆变性 可覆盖的类成员必须显式地标记为virtual

Java

缺少无符号数字数据类型 基本数据类型不是对象