最近Stack Overflow上有一群讨厌perl的人,所以我想我应该把我的“关于你最喜欢的语言你讨厌的五件事”的问题带到Stack Overflow上。拿你最喜欢的语言来说,告诉我你讨厌它的五件事。这些可能只是让你烦恼的事情,承认的设计缺陷,公认的性能问题,或任何其他类别。你只需要讨厌它,它必须是你最喜欢的语言。

不要拿它和其他语言比较,也不要谈论你已经讨厌的语言。不要用你最喜欢的语言谈论你喜欢的事情。我只是想听到你讨厌但能容忍的东西,这样你就可以使用所有其他的东西,我想听到你希望别人使用的语言。

每当有人试图把他们最喜欢的语言强加给我时,我就会问这个问题,有时是面试问题。如果有人找不出他最喜欢的工具的5个缺点,那他对它还不够了解,不能提倡它,也不能利用它赚大钱。他还没有在足够多的不同情况下使用它来充分探索它。他把它作为一种文化或宗教来倡导,这意味着如果我不选择他最喜欢的技术,我就错了。

我不在乎你用什么语言。不想使用特定的语言?那就不要。你通过尽职调查做出了明智的选择,但仍然没有使用它?好吧。有时正确的答案是“你有一个强大的编程团队,有良好的实践和丰富的Bar经验。改成Foo是愚蠢的。”


This is a good question for code reviews too. People who really know a codebase will have all sorts of suggestions for it, and those who don't know it so well have non-specific complaints. I ask things like "If you could start over on this project, what would you do differently?" In this fantasy land, users and programmers get to complain about anything and everything they don't like. "I want a better interface", "I want to separate the model from the view", "I'd use this module instead of this other one", "I'd rename this set of methods", or whatever they really don't like about the current situation. That's how I get a handle on how much a particular developer knows about the codebase. It's also a clue about how much of the programmer's ego is tied up in what he's telling me.

憎恨并不是衡量人们了解多少的唯一尺度,但我发现它是一个相当不错的尺度。他们讨厌的事情也让我知道他们对这个话题的思考有多好。


当前回答

c#中缺少预处理器。

我知道他们把它放在一边是因为有些人会滥用它,但我认为他们把孩子和洗澡水一起倒掉了。代码生成被认为是一件好事,在c++中,预处理程序是我的第一个代码生成器。

其他回答

Python:

1) It's a scripting language and not a fully compiled one (I'd prefer to be able to compile binaries—I don't care about bytecode). This is very annoying if I have to use very many libraries (i.e. everyone who uses my program has to install all the libraries, and this basically means no normal people will be able to, or have the patience to, properly set it up—unless I do a ton of work that should be unnecessary). I know ways to make binaries, but they don't always work, and I'm guessing they bundle the interpreter in the binaries anyhow (and I don't want that). Now, if I could get a bytecode compiler that would include copies of all the files that I imported (and only those) to be placed in my program's folder, that might be a suitable compromise (then no one would have to download extra libraries and such). It would also be nice if the compiled python files could be compressed into a single file with one specified as the file to run the program before this is done.

2)有时看起来有点bug;有几次,应该工作的代码根本没有工作(没有程序员错误),特别是与“from moduleX import *”和其他导入相关的问题有关的代码,以及一些与全局和局部变量有关的问题。

3)最大递归深度可以更高。至少有一次,我觉得我需要它去更高的地方。

4)没有switch语句(更不用说允许数字、字符串和范围的语句)

5)新版本的Python似乎取消了很多有用的字符串操作,而且似乎没有简单的文档说明如何在没有它们的情况下做同样的事情。

6)强制自动垃圾收集(我希望能够手动执行,尽管不一定强制执行)。

7)没有预先制作的定时器类没有使用GUI(好吧,可能有一个,但在我所做的所有搜索之后,它肯定不方便找到!我确实找到了一些东西,但当我尝试时,它根本不起作用。)所谓计时器,我指的是每隔x秒执行一个指定函数的排序,并能在需要时关闭它,等等。

8)社区里举例的人很少告诉我们他们导入了哪些模块,以及他们是如何导入的。

9)与Lua集成的支持并不多。

10)似乎没有办法向一个类的特定实例(而不是整个类)添加一个额外的函数,除非你动态地向该类添加一个对象变量,该对象具有所需的函数(但仍然,你必须为此创建另一个类)。

Perl

Mixed use of sigils my @array = ( 1, 2, 3 ); my $array = [ 4, 5, 6 ]; my $one = $array[0]; # not @array[0], you would get the length instead my $four = $array->[0]; # definitely not $array[0] my( $two, $three ) = @array[1,2]; my( $five, $six ) = @$array[1,2]; # coerce to array first my $length_a = @array; my $length_s = @$array; my $ref_a = \@array; my $ref_s = $array; For example none of these are the same: $array[0] # First element of @array @array[0] # Slice of only the First element of @array %array[0] # Syntax error $array->[0] # First element of an array referenced by $array @array->[0] # Deprecated first element of @array %array->[0] # Invalid reference $array{0} # Element of %array referenced by string '0' @array{0} # Slice of only one element of %array referenced by string '0' %array{0} # Syntax error $array->{0} # Element of a hash referenced by $array @array->{0} # Invalid reference %array->{0} # Deprecated Element of %array referenced by string '0' In Perl6 it is written: my @array = ( 1, 2, 3 ); my $array = [ 4, 5, 6 ]; my $one = @array[0]; my $four = $array[0]; # $array.[0] my( $two, $three ) = @array[1,2]; my( $five, $six ) = $array[1,2]; my $length_a = @array.length; my $length_s = $array.length; my $ref_a = @array; my $ref_s = $array; Lack of true OO package my_object; # fake constructor sub new{ bless {}, $_[0] } # fake properties/attributes sub var_a{ my $self = shift @_; $self->{'var_a'} = $_[0] if @_; $self->{'var_a'} } In Perl6 it is written: class Dog is Mammal { has $.name = "fido"; has $.tail is rw; has @.legs; has $!brain; method doit ($a, $b, $c) { ... } ... } Poorly designed regex features /(?=regexp)/; # look ahead /(?<=fixed-regexp)/; # look behind /(?!regexp)/; # negative look ahead /(?<!fixed-regexp)/; # negative look behind /(?>regexp)/; # independent sub expression /(capture)/; # simple capture /(?:don't capture)/; # non-capturing group /(?<name>regexp)/; # named capture /[A-Z]/; # character class /[^A-Z]/; # inverted character class # '-' would have to be the first or last element in # the character class to include it in the match # without escaping it /(?(condition)yes-regexp)/; /(?(condition)yes-regexp|no-regexp)/; /\b\s*\b/; # almost matches Perl6's <ws> /(?{ print "hi\n" })/; # run perl code In Perl6 it is written: / <?before pattern> /; # lookahead / <?after pattern> /; # lookbehind / regexp :: pattern /; # backtracking control / ( capture ) /; # simple capture / $<name>=[ regexp ] /; # named capture / [ don't capture ] /; # non-capturing group / <[A..Z]> /; # character class / <-[A..Z]> /; # inverted character class # you don't generally use '.' in a character class anyway / <ws> /; # Smart whitespace match / { say 'hi' } /; # run perl code Lack of multiple dispatch sub f( int $i ){ ... } # err sub f( float $i ){ ... } # err sub f($){ ... } # occasionally useful In Perl6 it is written: multi sub f( int $i ){ ... } multi sub f( num $i ){ ... } multi sub f( $i where $i == 0 ){ ... } multi sub f( $i ){ ... } # everything else Poor Operator overloading package my_object; use overload '+' => \&add, ... ; In Perl6 it is written: multi sub infix:<+> (Us $us, Them $them) | (Them $them, Us $us) { ... }

方案:

缺乏用户/社区小

C++

Strings. They are not interoperable with platform strings, so you end up using std::vector half of the time. The copy policy (copy on write or deep copy) is not defined, so performance guarantees can not be given for straightforward syntax. Sometimes they rely on STL algorithms that are not very intuitive to use. Too many libraries roll their own which are unfortunately much more comfortable to use. Unless you have to combine them. Variety of string representations Now, this is a little bit of a platform problem - but I still hope it would have been better when a less obstinate standard string class would have been available earlier. The following string representations I use frequently: generic LPCTSTR, LPC(W)STR allocated by CoTaskMemAlloc, BSTR, _bstr _t (w)string, CString, std::vector a roll-my-own class (sigh) that adds range checking and basic operations to a (w)char * buffer of known length Build model. I am sick to death of all the time spent muddling around with who-includes-what, forward declarations, optimizing precompiled headers and includes to keep at least incremental build times bearable, etc. It was great in the eighties, but now? There are so many hurdles to packing up a piece of code so it can be reused that even moms dog gets bored listening to me. Hard to parse This makes external tools especially hard to write, and get right. And today, we C++ guys are lacking mostly in the tool chain. I love my C# reflection and delegates but I can live without them. Without great refactoring, I can't. Threading is too hard Language doesn't even recognize it (by now), and the freedoms of the compiler - while great - are to painful. Static and on-demand initialization Technically, I cheat here: this is another puzzle piece in the "wrap up code for reuse": It's a nightmare to get something initialized only when it is needed. The best solution to all other redist problems is throwing everything into headers, this problem says "neeener - you cannot".


诚然,其中许多内容超出了严格的语言范围,但在我看来,整个工具链都需要进行判断和发展。

Python:

Too slow! list operations don't return the list, so you can't do list.append(4).append(5). (I mean a reference to the same list, not a copy). This is a minor gripe; it's only come up a few times. statements don't return values (if, print, while, for, etc). This is only a problem when dealing with lambdas. lambdas can only be one expression. There's no real need for this restriction, as they are equivalent to functions in every other way. What if I want a button press event which calls two functions? I'd need to create a named function to supply that functionality to an action listener, while doing "lambda: f1(); f2()" would not hurt. you can only put standard a-zA-Z_0-9 as names. Having functions like "true?" and "+" would be great. Of course, this could lead to terrible obfuscation, but I'm not saying we immediately rename all functions to "p@$%3". Which do you find clearer to read: "dec2bin" or "dec->bin"? ("store_results" or "storeResults") or "store-results"?