最近Stack Overflow上有一群讨厌perl的人,所以我想我应该把我的“关于你最喜欢的语言你讨厌的五件事”的问题带到Stack Overflow上。拿你最喜欢的语言来说,告诉我你讨厌它的五件事。这些可能只是让你烦恼的事情,承认的设计缺陷,公认的性能问题,或任何其他类别。你只需要讨厌它,它必须是你最喜欢的语言。

不要拿它和其他语言比较,也不要谈论你已经讨厌的语言。不要用你最喜欢的语言谈论你喜欢的事情。我只是想听到你讨厌但能容忍的东西,这样你就可以使用所有其他的东西,我想听到你希望别人使用的语言。

每当有人试图把他们最喜欢的语言强加给我时,我就会问这个问题,有时是面试问题。如果有人找不出他最喜欢的工具的5个缺点,那他对它还不够了解,不能提倡它,也不能利用它赚大钱。他还没有在足够多的不同情况下使用它来充分探索它。他把它作为一种文化或宗教来倡导,这意味着如果我不选择他最喜欢的技术,我就错了。

我不在乎你用什么语言。不想使用特定的语言?那就不要。你通过尽职调查做出了明智的选择,但仍然没有使用它?好吧。有时正确的答案是“你有一个强大的编程团队,有良好的实践和丰富的Bar经验。改成Foo是愚蠢的。”


This is a good question for code reviews too. People who really know a codebase will have all sorts of suggestions for it, and those who don't know it so well have non-specific complaints. I ask things like "If you could start over on this project, what would you do differently?" In this fantasy land, users and programmers get to complain about anything and everything they don't like. "I want a better interface", "I want to separate the model from the view", "I'd use this module instead of this other one", "I'd rename this set of methods", or whatever they really don't like about the current situation. That's how I get a handle on how much a particular developer knows about the codebase. It's also a clue about how much of the programmer's ego is tied up in what he's telling me.

憎恨并不是衡量人们了解多少的唯一尺度,但我发现它是一个相当不错的尺度。他们讨厌的事情也让我知道他们对这个话题的思考有多好。


当前回答

我有一本书探讨了SNOBOL中的各种项目。第一章探讨了SNOBOL编程和语言的历史和文化,并花了一些时间论证一个优秀的程序员喜欢一种语言不是因为它的缺陷,而是尽管有缺陷。

我最喜欢的语言是Icon/Unicon。但还是有一些事情让我很恼火:

它不是很出名,也不是很受欢迎。 与PHP、Perl、Java等相比,它的库要小得多。数据库访问是通过ODBC完成的,这实际上非常烦人。 对于所有其他出色的列表处理,我想念PHP内置的explosion()和implode()。 它没有表常数。列表,是的,表格,不是。 它是一种编译(实际翻译)语言。

其他回答

Python:

Global Interpreter Lock - Dealing with this complicates parallel processing. Lambdas functions are a bit clunky. No built-in ordered-dictionary type. Depending on how Python is compiled, it can use either UCS-2 vs UCS-4 for the internal Unicode encoding, many string operators and iterators may have unexpected results for multi-byte characters that exceed the default width. String slicing and iteration depend on the bit width rather than checking and counting characters. (Most other programming languages do similar things as well and have similarly odd behavior with these characters.) There are inconsistencies surrounding GUI frameworks for Python.

我觉得最喜欢的语言是不可能选择的。动态类型和静态类型不能进行比较,所以我只列出我使用的是哪一种类型

C++:

Template metaprogramming syntax is ugly. An implicit ::value would make it much more concise ->. Why can't the compiler figure out that I'm doing a ptr.thing and just do -> for me? I hate whitespace. So the whole vector<vector<int>> has to be vector<vector<int> > makes me get the jitters and then I can't focus whenever I see that line of code and I end up trying to figure out a way to use int[][] or something Macros. I personally love the concept of macros. But with C++, I that the system is a hack I'm a hater of ;

Python:

字符串是不可变的。这样我就不能用string[4]="b" 通过引用隐式复制列表。哪个泄漏到[[0]*width]*height问题 缺少尾递归(每当我输入错误递归函数时,我必须安装IDLE以避免吐出1000条错误消息) 字典键不接受列表/字典 缺乏深度范围。当我做一个列表推导时,我不希望其中的变量影响到外部作用域

C++

太容易随机破坏内存并创建几乎不可能找到的错误(尽管Valgrind在修复这个问题上走了很长的路)。 模板错误消息。 在使用模板时,很容易将所有内容都包含在一个文件中,然后进行愚蠢的编译。 标准库在现代是一个笑话(默认情况下仍然没有线程或网络?) 大量令人讨厌的C语言(特别是所有在short/int/unsigned/等之间的转换)。

C++

编写一个简单的代码片段要花很多时间。 对于(std::vector::const_iterator iter =[…] Vector.remove()不移除。 Vector.push_front()不存在。 头文件 没有λ 如果至少有一个虚函数,则没有自动空虚析构函数。

Ruby有许多与速度相关的缺陷,但我并不讨厌它们。它也有社区传福音过度的缺陷,但这并没有真正困扰我。以下是我最讨厌的:

Closures (blocks) have 4 different creation syntaxes, and none of them are optimal. The elegant syntax is incomplete and ambiguous with hashes, and the full syntax is ugly. The community tends to be against real documentation, favoring ‘read the code’. I find this childish and lazy. Metaprogramming abuse, particularly in libraries, makes bugs a nightmare to track down. On a related note, pervasive metaprogramming makes a comprehensive IDE difficult, if not impossible, to make. The way block passing to functions is done is silly. There is no reason blocks should be passed outside the parameter list, or have odd special syntax to access (yield). I am of the opinion that blocks should have been given a less ambiguous syntax (or hashes could have used different delimiters; perhaps <> rather than {}), and passing as parameters to methods should have been just like all other parameters. object.method(1, {|a| a.bar}, "blah") These oddities, like the block must be the last parameter passed and passing more than one block is different with longer syntax, really annoy me.