最近Stack Overflow上有一群讨厌perl的人,所以我想我应该把我的“关于你最喜欢的语言你讨厌的五件事”的问题带到Stack Overflow上。拿你最喜欢的语言来说,告诉我你讨厌它的五件事。这些可能只是让你烦恼的事情,承认的设计缺陷,公认的性能问题,或任何其他类别。你只需要讨厌它,它必须是你最喜欢的语言。

不要拿它和其他语言比较,也不要谈论你已经讨厌的语言。不要用你最喜欢的语言谈论你喜欢的事情。我只是想听到你讨厌但能容忍的东西,这样你就可以使用所有其他的东西,我想听到你希望别人使用的语言。

每当有人试图把他们最喜欢的语言强加给我时,我就会问这个问题,有时是面试问题。如果有人找不出他最喜欢的工具的5个缺点,那他对它还不够了解,不能提倡它,也不能利用它赚大钱。他还没有在足够多的不同情况下使用它来充分探索它。他把它作为一种文化或宗教来倡导,这意味着如果我不选择他最喜欢的技术,我就错了。

我不在乎你用什么语言。不想使用特定的语言?那就不要。你通过尽职调查做出了明智的选择,但仍然没有使用它?好吧。有时正确的答案是“你有一个强大的编程团队,有良好的实践和丰富的Bar经验。改成Foo是愚蠢的。”


This is a good question for code reviews too. People who really know a codebase will have all sorts of suggestions for it, and those who don't know it so well have non-specific complaints. I ask things like "If you could start over on this project, what would you do differently?" In this fantasy land, users and programmers get to complain about anything and everything they don't like. "I want a better interface", "I want to separate the model from the view", "I'd use this module instead of this other one", "I'd rename this set of methods", or whatever they really don't like about the current situation. That's how I get a handle on how much a particular developer knows about the codebase. It's also a clue about how much of the programmer's ego is tied up in what he's telling me.

憎恨并不是衡量人们了解多少的唯一尺度,但我发现它是一个相当不错的尺度。他们讨厌的事情也让我知道他们对这个话题的思考有多好。


当前回答

经过一些思考后重写了这篇文章…

虽然我喜欢PHP,但我讨厌它的五个方面(排名不分先后):

内置函数中的命名和参数顺序不一致。 面向对象的数组方法多亏了SPL,但遗憾的是还没有字符串。 PHP本身没有真正的并发,只有通过托管web服务器的多处理 没有像JavaScript那样的异步调用 只能通过扩展进行操作码缓存。不是很糟糕,只是有点烦人。

这些是令我烦恼的语言特性(或缺乏),但更大的问题是这些与人/社区相关的东西:

事实上,很多使用PHP的人,对编程和良好实践一无所知,从而产生了非常混乱的代码。JavaScript也有同样的问题。 大量的教程/书籍传授了非常糟糕的做法和风格。这可能是第三条的主要原因。 它的坏名声主要是因为第三条和第四条。

其他回答

JavaScript

Function object syntax: f = new Function( "foo", "bar", "return foo+bar;" ); (It takes n arguments, the first n-1 are arguments for the function, then nth is the actual function, in string form. Which is just silly.) Function arguments can be repeated. f = new Function( "foo", "foo", "return foo;" ); The last repetition is the only one ever used, though: f( "bye", "hi" ) // returns "hi" f( "hi" ) // returns undefined E4X should just die. My users are always complaining that it doesn't work the way they think it will. Let's face it, when you need a page and a half of psuedocode for a setter, it's time to rethink things. A standard notion of stdin/stdout/stderr (and files!) would be nice. null != undefined It's irritating to have to handle them both. Sometimes it's useful, but most languages manage to limp along fine with one.

Python 3

both tabs & spaces allowed for indentation And you'd think people learn from the past (Makefile). Just pick spaces and forbid tabs. YAML got it right. lack of popular third-party libraries The standard library is great, but a lot of what makes Python 2 so powerful lies in the third-party realm. Python 2 got this right :-). IEEE floats Floating points in programming languages are confusing because they're different from the way we use them in math. Instead, the number operations should be viewed as expressions that are only converted to a decimal point format when needed (i.e. printing to a screen). Maple and Mathematica did this right I think. the character set for identifiers is too restricted list.empty? is better than list.is_empty or even len(list) != 0. Similarly, process.kill! would be better than process.kill. Ruby and lisp got this right. when calling a function you must always write parentheses It would be nice if we could omit them in unambiguous cases. How is it again? dict.items or dict.items()? Ruby got this one right, too.

objective - c

1)没有命名空间,只有手动命名约定——我不介意在类分离方面,但我确实怀念能够在一行命名空间中导入所有类定义(如import com.me.somelibrary.*)。

2)库在像RegEx支持这样的重要领域仍然存在一些漏洞。

3)属性语法有点笨拙,需要三行(在两个单独的文件中)来声明一个属性。

4)我喜欢保留/释放模式,但它比应该的更容易释放一个引用,然后意外地使用它。

5)虽然不是真正的语言特性,但Xcode与Objective-C的使用是如此交织在一起,我不禁想到这方面……基本上自动补全,是很可疑的。它更像是一个奖励你找到你想要的东西的系统,然后把它作为一个选择。但我想我从来都不喜欢自动补全引擎。

我偶尔会用我喜欢的PHP,而Python会用得太多。

No namespace; everything is in a kind of very big namespace which is hell in bigger environments Lack of standards when it comes to functions: array functions take a needle as a first argument, haystack as second (see array_search). String functions often take the haystack first, needle second (see strpos). Other functions just use different naming schemes: bin2hex, strtolower, cal_to_jd Some functions have weird return values, out of what is normal: This forces you to have a third variable declared out of nowhere while PHP could efficiently interpret an empty array as false with its type juggling. There are near no other functions doing the same. $var = preg_match_all('/regexp/', $str, $ret); echo $var; //outputs the number of matches print_r($ret); //outputs the matches as an array The language (until PHP6) does its best to respect a near-retarded backward compatibility, making it carry bad practices and functions around when not needed (see mysql_escape_string vs. mysql_real_escape_string). The language evolved from a templating language to a full-backend one. This means anybody can output anything when they want, and it gets abused. You end up with template engines for a templating language... It sucks at importing files. You have 4 different ways to do it (include, include_once, require, require_once), they are all slow, very slow. In fact the whole language is slow. At least, pretty slower than python (even with a framework) and RoR from what I gather.

不过,我仍然喜欢PHP。这是网页开发的电锯:你想要一个小型到中型网站的速度非常快,并确保任何人都可以托管它(尽管配置可能不同)?PHP就在那里,它无处不在,只需要5分钟就可以安装一个完整的LAMP或WAMP堆栈。好吧,我现在要回去用Python工作了……

Haskell:

惰性计算导致空间泄漏。 数字层次结构不是根据数学抽象构造的。 严格的单元IO会使调试更加困难。 大型实现处理I/O的方式似乎与标准不太兼容。(特别是,输出字符只输出低8位——然后构建代码,使用这个假设来执行二进制I/O。我吐!) ($)运算符的结合性可以被改变以使某些表达式更漂亮。

大多数问题都不会上升到讨厌的程度,有些人试图解决或为每一个问题构建可靠的变通办法。

编辑:关于第5点有些困惑。特别是有些人似乎认为我指的是论证的顺序,但我不是。我不解释我的意思,我只想让人们去下面的链接http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/haskell-prime/wiki/ChangeDollarAssociativity,它很好地表达了我的意思。