最近Stack Overflow上有一群讨厌perl的人,所以我想我应该把我的“关于你最喜欢的语言你讨厌的五件事”的问题带到Stack Overflow上。拿你最喜欢的语言来说,告诉我你讨厌它的五件事。这些可能只是让你烦恼的事情,承认的设计缺陷,公认的性能问题,或任何其他类别。你只需要讨厌它,它必须是你最喜欢的语言。

不要拿它和其他语言比较,也不要谈论你已经讨厌的语言。不要用你最喜欢的语言谈论你喜欢的事情。我只是想听到你讨厌但能容忍的东西,这样你就可以使用所有其他的东西,我想听到你希望别人使用的语言。

每当有人试图把他们最喜欢的语言强加给我时,我就会问这个问题,有时是面试问题。如果有人找不出他最喜欢的工具的5个缺点,那他对它还不够了解,不能提倡它,也不能利用它赚大钱。他还没有在足够多的不同情况下使用它来充分探索它。他把它作为一种文化或宗教来倡导,这意味着如果我不选择他最喜欢的技术,我就错了。

我不在乎你用什么语言。不想使用特定的语言?那就不要。你通过尽职调查做出了明智的选择,但仍然没有使用它?好吧。有时正确的答案是“你有一个强大的编程团队,有良好的实践和丰富的Bar经验。改成Foo是愚蠢的。”


This is a good question for code reviews too. People who really know a codebase will have all sorts of suggestions for it, and those who don't know it so well have non-specific complaints. I ask things like "If you could start over on this project, what would you do differently?" In this fantasy land, users and programmers get to complain about anything and everything they don't like. "I want a better interface", "I want to separate the model from the view", "I'd use this module instead of this other one", "I'd rename this set of methods", or whatever they really don't like about the current situation. That's how I get a handle on how much a particular developer knows about the codebase. It's also a clue about how much of the programmer's ego is tied up in what he's telling me.

憎恨并不是衡量人们了解多少的唯一尺度,但我发现它是一个相当不错的尺度。他们讨厌的事情也让我知道他们对这个话题的思考有多好。


当前回答

我偶尔会用我喜欢的PHP,而Python会用得太多。

No namespace; everything is in a kind of very big namespace which is hell in bigger environments Lack of standards when it comes to functions: array functions take a needle as a first argument, haystack as second (see array_search). String functions often take the haystack first, needle second (see strpos). Other functions just use different naming schemes: bin2hex, strtolower, cal_to_jd Some functions have weird return values, out of what is normal: This forces you to have a third variable declared out of nowhere while PHP could efficiently interpret an empty array as false with its type juggling. There are near no other functions doing the same. $var = preg_match_all('/regexp/', $str, $ret); echo $var; //outputs the number of matches print_r($ret); //outputs the matches as an array The language (until PHP6) does its best to respect a near-retarded backward compatibility, making it carry bad practices and functions around when not needed (see mysql_escape_string vs. mysql_real_escape_string). The language evolved from a templating language to a full-backend one. This means anybody can output anything when they want, and it gets abused. You end up with template engines for a templating language... It sucks at importing files. You have 4 different ways to do it (include, include_once, require, require_once), they are all slow, very slow. In fact the whole language is slow. At least, pretty slower than python (even with a framework) and RoR from what I gather.

不过,我仍然喜欢PHP。这是网页开发的电锯:你想要一个小型到中型网站的速度非常快,并确保任何人都可以托管它(尽管配置可能不同)?PHP就在那里,它无处不在,只需要5分钟就可以安装一个完整的LAMP或WAMP堆栈。好吧,我现在要回去用Python工作了……

其他回答

Python

1-3:没有一个明显的打包/构建/文档系统的选择(比如Perl的cpan、POD或Ruby的gem、rake、rdoc)。 4: Python 3.0是不兼容的,需要两个源分支(2。x和3.x)用于每个Python项目。但是Python 3.0的不兼容性还不足以证明它的合理性。大多数py3k的优势都太微妙了。 5: Jython, IronPython, CPython不兼容。

JavaScript

数字作为字符串-数学可以 数字令人沮丧 解释为字符串。5 + 2 = 52? 叽阿… 权限-所有最好的东西都需要用户的权限! 屏幕更新—浏览器必须处于稳定状态才能更新屏幕。似乎没有一种方法可以强制在脚本中间更新屏幕。 慢-虽然谷歌的Chrome很好… 浏览器的差异使语言的使用[审查]。

objective - c

1)没有命名空间,只有手动命名约定——我不介意在类分离方面,但我确实怀念能够在一行命名空间中导入所有类定义(如import com.me.somelibrary.*)。

2)库在像RegEx支持这样的重要领域仍然存在一些漏洞。

3)属性语法有点笨拙,需要三行(在两个单独的文件中)来声明一个属性。

4)我喜欢保留/释放模式,但它比应该的更容易释放一个引用,然后意外地使用它。

5)虽然不是真正的语言特性,但Xcode与Objective-C的使用是如此交织在一起,我不禁想到这方面……基本上自动补全,是很可疑的。它更像是一个奖励你找到你想要的东西的系统,然后把它作为一个选择。但我想我从来都不喜欢自动补全引擎。

C(好吧,这不是我最喜欢的,但当时还没人做过。)

套接字库语法。 没有函数重载。 c风格的字符串。 缓冲区溢出。 神秘的语法。我不知道有多少次我查到像atoi这样的东西,拍着我的额头,然后大喊“当然!”

编辑:如果我使用更多的库代码(就像我用套接字做的那样,但那些特别糟糕),我可能会想出更多的库代码,但我已经觉得我选择C语言是在作弊。许多语言的存在只是为了取C语言的好的部分,取代坏的部分,这有点像在徒劳无益。

C++

Strings. They are not interoperable with platform strings, so you end up using std::vector half of the time. The copy policy (copy on write or deep copy) is not defined, so performance guarantees can not be given for straightforward syntax. Sometimes they rely on STL algorithms that are not very intuitive to use. Too many libraries roll their own which are unfortunately much more comfortable to use. Unless you have to combine them. Variety of string representations Now, this is a little bit of a platform problem - but I still hope it would have been better when a less obstinate standard string class would have been available earlier. The following string representations I use frequently: generic LPCTSTR, LPC(W)STR allocated by CoTaskMemAlloc, BSTR, _bstr _t (w)string, CString, std::vector a roll-my-own class (sigh) that adds range checking and basic operations to a (w)char * buffer of known length Build model. I am sick to death of all the time spent muddling around with who-includes-what, forward declarations, optimizing precompiled headers and includes to keep at least incremental build times bearable, etc. It was great in the eighties, but now? There are so many hurdles to packing up a piece of code so it can be reused that even moms dog gets bored listening to me. Hard to parse This makes external tools especially hard to write, and get right. And today, we C++ guys are lacking mostly in the tool chain. I love my C# reflection and delegates but I can live without them. Without great refactoring, I can't. Threading is too hard Language doesn't even recognize it (by now), and the freedoms of the compiler - while great - are to painful. Static and on-demand initialization Technically, I cheat here: this is another puzzle piece in the "wrap up code for reuse": It's a nightmare to get something initialized only when it is needed. The best solution to all other redist problems is throwing everything into headers, this problem says "neeener - you cannot".


诚然,其中许多内容超出了严格的语言范围,但在我看来,整个工具链都需要进行判断和发展。