最近Stack Overflow上有一群讨厌perl的人,所以我想我应该把我的“关于你最喜欢的语言你讨厌的五件事”的问题带到Stack Overflow上。拿你最喜欢的语言来说,告诉我你讨厌它的五件事。这些可能只是让你烦恼的事情,承认的设计缺陷,公认的性能问题,或任何其他类别。你只需要讨厌它,它必须是你最喜欢的语言。

不要拿它和其他语言比较,也不要谈论你已经讨厌的语言。不要用你最喜欢的语言谈论你喜欢的事情。我只是想听到你讨厌但能容忍的东西,这样你就可以使用所有其他的东西,我想听到你希望别人使用的语言。

每当有人试图把他们最喜欢的语言强加给我时,我就会问这个问题,有时是面试问题。如果有人找不出他最喜欢的工具的5个缺点,那他对它还不够了解,不能提倡它,也不能利用它赚大钱。他还没有在足够多的不同情况下使用它来充分探索它。他把它作为一种文化或宗教来倡导,这意味着如果我不选择他最喜欢的技术,我就错了。

我不在乎你用什么语言。不想使用特定的语言?那就不要。你通过尽职调查做出了明智的选择,但仍然没有使用它?好吧。有时正确的答案是“你有一个强大的编程团队,有良好的实践和丰富的Bar经验。改成Foo是愚蠢的。”


This is a good question for code reviews too. People who really know a codebase will have all sorts of suggestions for it, and those who don't know it so well have non-specific complaints. I ask things like "If you could start over on this project, what would you do differently?" In this fantasy land, users and programmers get to complain about anything and everything they don't like. "I want a better interface", "I want to separate the model from the view", "I'd use this module instead of this other one", "I'd rename this set of methods", or whatever they really don't like about the current situation. That's how I get a handle on how much a particular developer knows about the codebase. It's also a clue about how much of the programmer's ego is tied up in what he's telling me.

憎恨并不是衡量人们了解多少的唯一尺度,但我发现它是一个相当不错的尺度。他们讨厌的事情也让我知道他们对这个话题的思考有多好。


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我偶尔会用我喜欢的PHP,而Python会用得太多。

No namespace; everything is in a kind of very big namespace which is hell in bigger environments Lack of standards when it comes to functions: array functions take a needle as a first argument, haystack as second (see array_search). String functions often take the haystack first, needle second (see strpos). Other functions just use different naming schemes: bin2hex, strtolower, cal_to_jd Some functions have weird return values, out of what is normal: This forces you to have a third variable declared out of nowhere while PHP could efficiently interpret an empty array as false with its type juggling. There are near no other functions doing the same. $var = preg_match_all('/regexp/', $str, $ret); echo $var; //outputs the number of matches print_r($ret); //outputs the matches as an array The language (until PHP6) does its best to respect a near-retarded backward compatibility, making it carry bad practices and functions around when not needed (see mysql_escape_string vs. mysql_real_escape_string). The language evolved from a templating language to a full-backend one. This means anybody can output anything when they want, and it gets abused. You end up with template engines for a templating language... It sucks at importing files. You have 4 different ways to do it (include, include_once, require, require_once), they are all slow, very slow. In fact the whole language is slow. At least, pretty slower than python (even with a framework) and RoR from what I gather.

不过,我仍然喜欢PHP。这是网页开发的电锯:你想要一个小型到中型网站的速度非常快,并确保任何人都可以托管它(尽管配置可能不同)?PHP就在那里,它无处不在,只需要5分钟就可以安装一个完整的LAMP或WAMP堆栈。好吧,我现在要回去用Python工作了……

其他回答

c# / .net:

Classes should be sealed by default There should be no lock statement - instead, you should have specific locking objects, and there should be methods such as Acquire which return disposable lock tokens. Corollary: there shouldn't be a monitor for every object. GetHashCode() and Equals() shouldn't be in System.Object - not everything's suitable for hashing. Instead, have an IdentityComparer which does the same thing, and keep the IComparer<T>, IComparable<T>, IEqualityComparer<T> and IEquatable<T> interfaces for custom comparisons. Poor support for immutability Poor way of discovering extension methods - it should be a much more conscious decision than just the fact that I'm using a namespace.

这些都是我想出来的,明天问我,我会想出一个不同的5个:)

我自己最讨厌c++的5个地方:

自动生成构造函数、析构函数和赋值操作符。伙计,每当我在课上没有声明什么东西时,这意味着我不需要它,而不是我忘记了。你们这些编辑们,听到了吗?!

[4]模板语法。哦,我真的需要输入所有这些“<”和“>”,每当我决定从类主体提取定义?

[3]字符串。天啊,我受够了“const char*”,我必须处理NULL情况,我必须浪费O(N)来获得它的长度,我必须为concat操作分配缓冲区。

[2] Macroprocessing。每当我不明白,什么是我的编译器,我开始寻找宏。

[1]操作符重载。我看到代码“A + B * C”,在我看到A、B和C的实际类型之前,我说不出这个代码是关于什么的。

Objective Caml

Non-concurrent garbage collector. I can write multi-threaded programs all day long, but they're only ever going to get one of my eight cores at a time. This makes me sad. No type classes (or their moral equivalent). There's Furuse-san's GCaml, but it's A) not quite as good as type classes, and B) not in the INRIA distribution. Badly in need of a Cocoa bridge. Seriously. If I wrote more code with actual interfaces to DNA-based life forms, then I'd probably break down and write the damned thing myself. Why hasn't anybody else done this yet? Functors are abominable. Seriously, modules ought to be first-class values. There should be only one kind of function. Read Montagu and Rémy before you flame me for this. Should use LLVM for its back-end. Who do I have to murder to get OCaml to compile for my stupid little ARM6 core?

是的,我有一些问题。我仍然非常喜欢这门语言。这太棒了。

HyperTalk:

很久很久以前就死了 没有简单的赋值(你不能说a:= 3,你必须说把3放进a 没有嵌套函数 没有真正的数据结构,只有字符串。要创建“列表”,您可以使用itemDelimiter分隔项并手动转义它们。你也可以得到行和单词比如txt的第5行第2个单词

说句题外话,我认为HyperTalk最酷的独特功能之一是特殊的it变量:

ask "How many years old are you?"
answer "You are " & it*12 & " months old."

C++:

1:头文件。

链接代码比编译代码更难。同样,模板在翻译单元中包含完整源代码的要求也是荒谬的。在那边的那个文件里。你两秒钟前编译的那个。去那里看看。愚蠢的编译器。

2:空标准库。

我的意思是,是的,在c++ 0x中有std::thread,但没有std::socket或任何类似的东西。没有跨平台代码的主要原因是,您必须为希望在多个平台上执行的每个函数学习一个新的库。没有作为标准提供的OS头文件或OS函数,c++只适合推位。

3:没有多次返回或返回值重载

Double x, int y, char z = func();和void func(double x, int y, char z)一样有效;请。没有返回值重载的唯一原因是我们“可能”编写了模棱两可的代码。可能!请在我真正写出模棱两可的代码时给我悲伤,而不是之前。

4:不反思

可以将反射设置为编译时反射。的确如此。没有任何库使得编写大量的库变得困难,并且严重地惹恼了我。我可以滥用预处理器,但是..

5:在模板上鸭子打字

Yaargh。请,概念和正确的模板错误消息。使用Boost这样的库实际上是不可能的,因为如果你用错了,你就是在瞎猜。