最近Stack Overflow上有一群讨厌perl的人,所以我想我应该把我的“关于你最喜欢的语言你讨厌的五件事”的问题带到Stack Overflow上。拿你最喜欢的语言来说,告诉我你讨厌它的五件事。这些可能只是让你烦恼的事情,承认的设计缺陷,公认的性能问题,或任何其他类别。你只需要讨厌它,它必须是你最喜欢的语言。

不要拿它和其他语言比较,也不要谈论你已经讨厌的语言。不要用你最喜欢的语言谈论你喜欢的事情。我只是想听到你讨厌但能容忍的东西,这样你就可以使用所有其他的东西,我想听到你希望别人使用的语言。

每当有人试图把他们最喜欢的语言强加给我时,我就会问这个问题,有时是面试问题。如果有人找不出他最喜欢的工具的5个缺点,那他对它还不够了解,不能提倡它,也不能利用它赚大钱。他还没有在足够多的不同情况下使用它来充分探索它。他把它作为一种文化或宗教来倡导,这意味着如果我不选择他最喜欢的技术,我就错了。

我不在乎你用什么语言。不想使用特定的语言?那就不要。你通过尽职调查做出了明智的选择,但仍然没有使用它?好吧。有时正确的答案是“你有一个强大的编程团队,有良好的实践和丰富的Bar经验。改成Foo是愚蠢的。”


This is a good question for code reviews too. People who really know a codebase will have all sorts of suggestions for it, and those who don't know it so well have non-specific complaints. I ask things like "If you could start over on this project, what would you do differently?" In this fantasy land, users and programmers get to complain about anything and everything they don't like. "I want a better interface", "I want to separate the model from the view", "I'd use this module instead of this other one", "I'd rename this set of methods", or whatever they really don't like about the current situation. That's how I get a handle on how much a particular developer knows about the codebase. It's also a clue about how much of the programmer's ego is tied up in what he's telling me.

憎恨并不是衡量人们了解多少的唯一尺度,但我发现它是一个相当不错的尺度。他们讨厌的事情也让我知道他们对这个话题的思考有多好。


当前回答

Python:

没有分隔符表示块的结束会导致歧义,这样自动缩进就不能处理格式不佳的代码。 没有宏(修饰符不算) 没有像haskell的cabal或perl的CPAN那样的库自动获取 不能声明变量const(是的,可以自己定义变量,但是…) 元编程被削弱 差点忘了全局解释器锁

其他回答

第一个帖子,所以对我放松点:)…很棒的社区网站,顺便说一句!

我试着阅读其他所有的c#回复,这样我的回复就不会重叠了

c#……排名不分先后:

1) switch语句中的case没有fallthrough。如果没有转机……为什么必须显式的类型中断;呢?这只是弱智和令人困惑,因为它意味着没有休息的能力;!!

2)不能在子作用域中声明同名变量,但可以声明与类变量同名的变量?要么都允许,要么都不允许。否则,就没有意义了。

3)函数中没有可选/默认参数

4) finally{}中的异常应该隐式地捕捉每一行。或者至少,只有NullReferenceException异常。例如,在访问数据库后,应该总是清理。所以,finally块应该看起来像这样:

finally
{
  if(par1 != null)
    par1.Dispose();
  if(comm != null)
    comm.Dispose();
  if(conn != null)
    conn.Dispose();
}

如果可以写成这样,就会简洁得多:

finally
{
    par1.Dispose();
    comm.Dispose();
    conn.Dispose();
}

但是,不……你必须检查你是否正在访问一个空对象,否则它可能会从finally块抛出一个NullReferenceException。谁真的需要finally块中的异常呢?

5)泛型:你可以指定new()来实例化你的泛型对象,但是这个对象需要有一个默认构造函数。为什么不能指定一个签名,这样就不需要在还没有空构造函数的情况下创建空构造函数,而只使用已有的构造函数。

c# / .net:

Classes should be sealed by default There should be no lock statement - instead, you should have specific locking objects, and there should be methods such as Acquire which return disposable lock tokens. Corollary: there shouldn't be a monitor for every object. GetHashCode() and Equals() shouldn't be in System.Object - not everything's suitable for hashing. Instead, have an IdentityComparer which does the same thing, and keep the IComparer<T>, IComparable<T>, IEqualityComparer<T> and IEquatable<T> interfaces for custom comparisons. Poor support for immutability Poor way of discovering extension methods - it should be a much more conscious decision than just the fact that I'm using a namespace.

这些都是我想出来的,明天问我,我会想出一个不同的5个:)

Python

错误/异常在调试时是模糊的 我工作时不用 在类中使用__init__, __repr__, __str__等 不能简单地编译可执行文件(.exe或其他) 还有一件事我还没试过,但肯定会让我心烦

对于所有的c语言程序员来说,self对我来说更有意义,因为对象引用的是它的self

我不敢相信,我最讨厌的Python竟然还没被提到:

(Prior to 3.x) Relative imports look like absolute imports. import foo Does this import foo from the directory you're standing in or from the sys.path? Zipped eggs, leading to a sys.path full of shite. Zipped eggs means you can't use grep and find (to among other things debug problem 1)! Fortunately, there's pip. Use pip. Some of the included batteries are unpythonic. It grates to use them. Might be the fault of distro's and packagers, but still: sourcefile-encoding set to fscking ASCII on install/compile. WTF? Means I have to put the "# coding: UTF-8"-stuff in every single .py I ever make.

Py3k解决了我的其他几个讨厌的问题,例如坚持字符串是unicode的,8位的东西是不同的……

Python:

Too slow! list operations don't return the list, so you can't do list.append(4).append(5). (I mean a reference to the same list, not a copy). This is a minor gripe; it's only come up a few times. statements don't return values (if, print, while, for, etc). This is only a problem when dealing with lambdas. lambdas can only be one expression. There's no real need for this restriction, as they are equivalent to functions in every other way. What if I want a button press event which calls two functions? I'd need to create a named function to supply that functionality to an action listener, while doing "lambda: f1(); f2()" would not hurt. you can only put standard a-zA-Z_0-9 as names. Having functions like "true?" and "+" would be great. Of course, this could lead to terrible obfuscation, but I'm not saying we immediately rename all functions to "p@$%3". Which do you find clearer to read: "dec2bin" or "dec->bin"? ("store_results" or "storeResults") or "store-results"?