最近Stack Overflow上有一群讨厌perl的人,所以我想我应该把我的“关于你最喜欢的语言你讨厌的五件事”的问题带到Stack Overflow上。拿你最喜欢的语言来说,告诉我你讨厌它的五件事。这些可能只是让你烦恼的事情,承认的设计缺陷,公认的性能问题,或任何其他类别。你只需要讨厌它,它必须是你最喜欢的语言。

不要拿它和其他语言比较,也不要谈论你已经讨厌的语言。不要用你最喜欢的语言谈论你喜欢的事情。我只是想听到你讨厌但能容忍的东西,这样你就可以使用所有其他的东西,我想听到你希望别人使用的语言。

每当有人试图把他们最喜欢的语言强加给我时,我就会问这个问题,有时是面试问题。如果有人找不出他最喜欢的工具的5个缺点,那他对它还不够了解,不能提倡它,也不能利用它赚大钱。他还没有在足够多的不同情况下使用它来充分探索它。他把它作为一种文化或宗教来倡导,这意味着如果我不选择他最喜欢的技术,我就错了。

我不在乎你用什么语言。不想使用特定的语言?那就不要。你通过尽职调查做出了明智的选择,但仍然没有使用它?好吧。有时正确的答案是“你有一个强大的编程团队,有良好的实践和丰富的Bar经验。改成Foo是愚蠢的。”


This is a good question for code reviews too. People who really know a codebase will have all sorts of suggestions for it, and those who don't know it so well have non-specific complaints. I ask things like "If you could start over on this project, what would you do differently?" In this fantasy land, users and programmers get to complain about anything and everything they don't like. "I want a better interface", "I want to separate the model from the view", "I'd use this module instead of this other one", "I'd rename this set of methods", or whatever they really don't like about the current situation. That's how I get a handle on how much a particular developer knows about the codebase. It's also a clue about how much of the programmer's ego is tied up in what he's telling me.

憎恨并不是衡量人们了解多少的唯一尺度,但我发现它是一个相当不错的尺度。他们讨厌的事情也让我知道他们对这个话题的思考有多好。


当前回答

Erlang不在此列表中。在我最喜欢的语言中,但有一些缺陷是肯定的:

Syntax. This includes the 3 terminating tokens (,;.) and aesthetics, but more generally on how the semantic meaning of the code is expressed in text. An example is on how all lowercase tokens are atoms, so to refer to a function you can't just name it, you have to fun my_function/1, and ?PRECEDE_CONSTANTS_WITH_QUESTION_MARKS. Coming from Scheme, Haskell, etc. you just wish you could use a name. Library support is lame. This is mostly external libraries, but even the old standard library. Newer versions of Erlang have sensible POSIX regexes, but the old one had a pretty horrible library for basic string manipulation. You also never know when you're getting the value, or {ok, Value}. Related: non-uniform tools for building and distribution. Ruby has gem and rake, RSpec. Perl has CPAN. I'm unaware of decent equivalents in Erlang. The few Erlang specific tools are pretty strange. Mnesia is a great database, but coming from SQL you have lots of trivialities to learn. Same with the documentation @spec, which has a strange way of describing signatures. Often the functional paradigm hurts when you just want that little bit of mutation. Supposing you want a Hash Table, you can't just hack it as in Scheme, or SML. ets and dets alleviate some of the pain, but not much.

第六,奖金:

模块的导入和导出语法是一堆失败,这与Java的80多行导入语句没有什么不同。

综上所述,Erlang是一种乐趣^_^

其他回答

我只有一个,但我相信它值得分享。

CSharp / .NET

我们有Length属性来获取数组中的元素个数,还有Count属性来获取集合中的元素个数。如果考虑到CLR在后台自动将IList、ICollection、IEnumerable添加到基于零的一维数组,那么它看起来就更奇怪了。

我相信CLR团队和BCL团队在讨论这个问题时遇到了困难;)

PHP:

1)强迫我创造不必要的变量:

$parts = explode('|', $string);
$first = $parts[0];

2) lambdas的实现如此蹩脚,它大致相当于使用eval(),而且如此糟糕,我从未使用过它(参见http://www.php.net/create_function)。

3) try/catch系统只能捕获大约80%可能发生的错误。

4) Regex支持和lambda支持一样蹩脚,因为它必须在常规字符串中编写,这使得最难学的编程工具之一变得困难了三倍。PHP应该是一种“简单”的语言吗?

5)没有办法安全地从$_POST中取出东西,而不写两次或构建自己的函数,或使用'@'操作符:

$x = isset($_POST['foo']['bar']) ? $_POST['foo']['bar'] : null;

6)额外答案:“@”。如果你懒得写正确的代码,那就添加'@',这对以后调试你的代码的人来说太糟糕了。

C

字符串操作。

必须手动处理字符串缓冲区是一个容易出错的痛苦。由于如此多的计算实际上是移动和修改字符串(计算机并不像人们想象的那样用于大型数字运算),因此能够使用托管语言或c++的字符串对象来处理这些非常好。当我必须在直发C时,感觉就像在流沙中游泳。

Python

那些我不理解的…

math.ceil() and math.floor() return floats, not integers (probably to avoid an integer overflow in the underlying C function - but why not cast to a Python long?) len() is a function not a method reload() is very limited, does not reload a module 9 times out of 10, only reloads an imported label if it is a module - i.e. cannot do from bar import foo; reload(foo) if foo is not itself a module Mutable default arguments have a single reference (why not a new instance each function call?!) All these underscored variables - if they are so private, how come we see inbuilt ones so much in code? Get a namespace! Strings are not mutable - maybe there is a good reason for this but I have come across many situations where I would like to tweak one particular character ...

那些基于实现有意义但令人讨厌的……

array.sort()不返回数组(我认为它发生在原地) 列表/生成器推导式不定义新的作用域(只是for循环的语法糖,对吗?)

以及几个在Python 3中修复的

默认为整数除法 Global只能引用顶级名称空间

Delphi(又名Object Pascal),我将讨论本机版本,而不是。net。

Var块! 语言中的接口在设计时就考虑到了COM的使用——因此比c#或Java要复杂得多。ie。涉及引用计数,除非显式禁用它。 没有尝试,只有最终结束; 对象创建过于显式: var obj: TMyObject; ... obj:= TMyObject.Create; 试一试 ... 最后 obj.Free; 结束;

而是像这样

auto obj: TMyObject; // compiler adds the default constructor call and the destructor call in a try/finally block. 

好吧,语言太好了,我真的想不出更多,所以我在这里强迫自己:内置类型,如字符串,整数..或者枚举最好有方法。ie。i. tostring代替IntToStr(i)。