最近Stack Overflow上有一群讨厌perl的人,所以我想我应该把我的“关于你最喜欢的语言你讨厌的五件事”的问题带到Stack Overflow上。拿你最喜欢的语言来说,告诉我你讨厌它的五件事。这些可能只是让你烦恼的事情,承认的设计缺陷,公认的性能问题,或任何其他类别。你只需要讨厌它,它必须是你最喜欢的语言。

不要拿它和其他语言比较,也不要谈论你已经讨厌的语言。不要用你最喜欢的语言谈论你喜欢的事情。我只是想听到你讨厌但能容忍的东西,这样你就可以使用所有其他的东西,我想听到你希望别人使用的语言。

每当有人试图把他们最喜欢的语言强加给我时,我就会问这个问题,有时是面试问题。如果有人找不出他最喜欢的工具的5个缺点,那他对它还不够了解,不能提倡它,也不能利用它赚大钱。他还没有在足够多的不同情况下使用它来充分探索它。他把它作为一种文化或宗教来倡导,这意味着如果我不选择他最喜欢的技术,我就错了。

我不在乎你用什么语言。不想使用特定的语言?那就不要。你通过尽职调查做出了明智的选择,但仍然没有使用它?好吧。有时正确的答案是“你有一个强大的编程团队,有良好的实践和丰富的Bar经验。改成Foo是愚蠢的。”


This is a good question for code reviews too. People who really know a codebase will have all sorts of suggestions for it, and those who don't know it so well have non-specific complaints. I ask things like "If you could start over on this project, what would you do differently?" In this fantasy land, users and programmers get to complain about anything and everything they don't like. "I want a better interface", "I want to separate the model from the view", "I'd use this module instead of this other one", "I'd rename this set of methods", or whatever they really don't like about the current situation. That's how I get a handle on how much a particular developer knows about the codebase. It's also a clue about how much of the programmer's ego is tied up in what he's telling me.

憎恨并不是衡量人们了解多少的唯一尺度,但我发现它是一个相当不错的尺度。他们讨厌的事情也让我知道他们对这个话题的思考有多好。


当前回答

PHP:

1)强迫我创造不必要的变量:

$parts = explode('|', $string);
$first = $parts[0];

2) lambdas的实现如此蹩脚,它大致相当于使用eval(),而且如此糟糕,我从未使用过它(参见http://www.php.net/create_function)。

3) try/catch系统只能捕获大约80%可能发生的错误。

4) Regex支持和lambda支持一样蹩脚,因为它必须在常规字符串中编写,这使得最难学的编程工具之一变得困难了三倍。PHP应该是一种“简单”的语言吗?

5)没有办法安全地从$_POST中取出东西,而不写两次或构建自己的函数,或使用'@'操作符:

$x = isset($_POST['foo']['bar']) ? $_POST['foo']['bar'] : null;

6)额外答案:“@”。如果你懒得写正确的代码,那就添加'@',这对以后调试你的代码的人来说太糟糕了。

其他回答

以下是我不喜欢Java的一些地方(它不是我最喜欢的语言):

Generics type erasure (i.e. no reified generics) Inability to catch multiple exceptions (of different types) in a single catch block Lack of destructors (finalize() is a very poor substitute) No support for closures or treating functions as data (anonymous inner classes are a very verbose substitute) Checked exceptions in general, or more specifically, making unrecoverable exceptions checked (e.g. SQLException) No language-level support for literal collections No type-inference when constructors of generic classes are called, i.e. the type parameter(s) must be repeated on both sides of the '='

按最讨厌到最不讨厌的顺序排列。

1.) Backwards compatibility police. Yes backcompat is a strength but Perl 5 takes it too far. Now we don't really even get new features in our language without having to enable them explicitly. I'm much prefer the inverse, if a new feature causes a problem let me disable it or enforce old behavior. e.g. perl 5.10 added say I'd rather have no feature 'say' if I have my own say implemented than have to put use feature 'say'; or use 5.010; also if 5.8 worked but 5.10 didn't. I'd rather have use 5.008; to restrict my code to only use features available up to and including 5.8 if no use version; was defined then it should be defaulted to whatever version you're running, and a recommended practice of not to restrict it unless you have to.

2)。过度的样板。

#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;
use utf8;
use autodie;
use English '-no_match_vars';
use 5.010;
package Package::Name;

BEGIN {
    Package::Name::VERSION = 0.1;
}

sub somesub {
    my $self = shift;
    my ( $param1, $param2 ) = @_;
}
1;

现在你可以开始编码了。这不会因为第一条而改变。当然也有一些捷径,比如使用common::sense;或者使用modern::perl;这将缩短上面的内容,你可能需要一些稍微不同的模块或pragma。但因为第一条,我们永远无法把它降低到。

#!/usr/bin/perl
package Package::Name 0.01;

sub somesub ( $param1, $param2 ) {
}

一些模块正在帮助这一点,在5.0.12中有新的包版本,它完全允许这种语法,尽管我认为它需要使用5.012;首先,和Method::签名,但它永远不会完全解决,(在语言)。

3)。糟糕的变量选择

吸吸文件

#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;
open my $fh, "< foo" or die $!;
local $/; # enable localized slurp mode
my $content = <$fh>;
close $fh;

WTF是$!和美元/ ?重写为易读。

#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;
use English '-no_match_vars';
open my $fh, "< foo" or die $ERRNO;
local $INPUT_RECORD_SEPARATOR; # enable localized slurp mode
my $content = <$fh>;
close $fh;

不要忘记,如果您不想受到性能影响,'-no_match_vars'必须存在。

不直接创建匿名标量怎么样?

#!/usr/bin/perl
my $scalar_ref = \do{ my $anon_scalar };

他们就不能想出点什么办法吗?

#!/usr/bin/perl
my $scalar_ref = <>;

哦,perl是线程不友好的,因为所有的变量(包括特殊的变量)默认是全局的。至少现在你可以使用我的$_;对其词法作用域,并对其他词使用local。

4.)非常难看的语法

MooseX::Declare是一个更好的语法。我也希望->被替换为。(个人喜好不太重要)

5)。太多的TIMTOWTDI或太多的最佳实践似乎你必须读3-5本书才能弄清楚你应该如何做事情。

6)。以前的(不再适用)。Un-sane版本。5.10.0有新功能5.10.1的新功能没有设定时间,直到下一个版本。现在是每年一次的特性发布,每季度更新一次。

7)。象牙塔视角。社区问题,似乎是许多开发者想要设置更高的准入门槛,并认为可以不尊重n00b(或任何不同意他们的人)。

8)。疯狂的版本号/字符串Perl有浮点版本号,它们很难看。开发人员不知道并不是所有的下游处理版本比较的方式都是一样的。不是语言问题

0.012 # simple
5.012001 # semantic 
4.101900 # time based + version (for multiple versions in a day)
0.035_002 # prerelease

所有有效版本的perl..我们就不能用…

0.12 # simple
5.12.1 # semantic
20100713 # time based (just use the date and be careful not to need to release more than 1 a day)
0.35-beta2 # prerelease

除了

9)。升级后没有明显的方法重新安装所有XS模块

Python

1-3:没有一个明显的打包/构建/文档系统的选择(比如Perl的cpan、POD或Ruby的gem、rake、rdoc)。 4: Python 3.0是不兼容的,需要两个源分支(2。x和3.x)用于每个Python项目。但是Python 3.0的不兼容性还不足以证明它的合理性。大多数py3k的优势都太微妙了。 5: Jython, IronPython, CPython不兼容。

Common Lisp:

关键词往往太啰嗦。 库支持是可怜的。 在希望更严格地处理内存的操作系统中不能很好地工作。 没有与操作系统交互的良好工具。 “循环”功能没有很好地定义,当然看起来也不像Lispy。

Ruby有许多与速度相关的缺陷,但我并不讨厌它们。它也有社区传福音过度的缺陷,但这并没有真正困扰我。以下是我最讨厌的:

Closures (blocks) have 4 different creation syntaxes, and none of them are optimal. The elegant syntax is incomplete and ambiguous with hashes, and the full syntax is ugly. The community tends to be against real documentation, favoring ‘read the code’. I find this childish and lazy. Metaprogramming abuse, particularly in libraries, makes bugs a nightmare to track down. On a related note, pervasive metaprogramming makes a comprehensive IDE difficult, if not impossible, to make. The way block passing to functions is done is silly. There is no reason blocks should be passed outside the parameter list, or have odd special syntax to access (yield). I am of the opinion that blocks should have been given a less ambiguous syntax (or hashes could have used different delimiters; perhaps <> rather than {}), and passing as parameters to methods should have been just like all other parameters. object.method(1, {|a| a.bar}, "blah") These oddities, like the block must be the last parameter passed and passing more than one block is different with longer syntax, really annoy me.