最近Stack Overflow上有一群讨厌perl的人,所以我想我应该把我的“关于你最喜欢的语言你讨厌的五件事”的问题带到Stack Overflow上。拿你最喜欢的语言来说,告诉我你讨厌它的五件事。这些可能只是让你烦恼的事情,承认的设计缺陷,公认的性能问题,或任何其他类别。你只需要讨厌它,它必须是你最喜欢的语言。

不要拿它和其他语言比较,也不要谈论你已经讨厌的语言。不要用你最喜欢的语言谈论你喜欢的事情。我只是想听到你讨厌但能容忍的东西,这样你就可以使用所有其他的东西,我想听到你希望别人使用的语言。

每当有人试图把他们最喜欢的语言强加给我时,我就会问这个问题,有时是面试问题。如果有人找不出他最喜欢的工具的5个缺点,那他对它还不够了解,不能提倡它,也不能利用它赚大钱。他还没有在足够多的不同情况下使用它来充分探索它。他把它作为一种文化或宗教来倡导,这意味着如果我不选择他最喜欢的技术,我就错了。

我不在乎你用什么语言。不想使用特定的语言?那就不要。你通过尽职调查做出了明智的选择,但仍然没有使用它?好吧。有时正确的答案是“你有一个强大的编程团队,有良好的实践和丰富的Bar经验。改成Foo是愚蠢的。”


This is a good question for code reviews too. People who really know a codebase will have all sorts of suggestions for it, and those who don't know it so well have non-specific complaints. I ask things like "If you could start over on this project, what would you do differently?" In this fantasy land, users and programmers get to complain about anything and everything they don't like. "I want a better interface", "I want to separate the model from the view", "I'd use this module instead of this other one", "I'd rename this set of methods", or whatever they really don't like about the current situation. That's how I get a handle on how much a particular developer knows about the codebase. It's also a clue about how much of the programmer's ego is tied up in what he's telling me.

憎恨并不是衡量人们了解多少的唯一尺度,但我发现它是一个相当不错的尺度。他们讨厌的事情也让我知道他们对这个话题的思考有多好。


当前回答

Scala是我最喜欢的语言。五件讨厌的事?容易:

Takes a long time to learn properly. I know you can write Scala as a 'better java'. That is what we used to say about C++ and C too. I agree this is an inevitable consequence of the deep ideas in the language. But still ... Methods vs. Functions: def f(x: Int) = x*x defines a method f, not a function f. Methods are not functions despite a lot of early Scala tutorial material blurring the distinction. The language tries to blur it too because if you supply a method in some places where a function is expected it is accepted. Do we have to have both methods and functions? Yes it is fundamental. But it was initially confusing to me. Composing classes or objects from mixins in the 'cake' pattern is prone to NPE's. e.g. trait X { val host: String; val url = "http://" + host } is a mixin that will NPE on instantiation, or not, depending on its position in the class declaration. The compiler could tell you if it will fail but doesn't. (In 2.7 anyway.) It is hard to diagnose the problem in complex inheritance graphs. Arrays in 2.8 rely on implicits to mesh with the main scala collection types. But implicits are not applied everywhere. An Array can be supplied where a Seq is expected. But an Option[Array] cannot be supplied where an Option[Seq] is expected. I know there are no completely 'right' ways to handle java Arrays. Type erasure. Enough said.

其他回答

我刚刚发现,在c#中创建泛型方法时,我不能使用Enum作为类型约束。

微软有一个足够好的解释,但仍然。我疯了

public static T MyFunc<T>(string arg) where T:Enum //wont work :(

C#

I wish I could switch() on any type, and that case could be any expression. Can't use object initializer syntax with 'readonly' fields / private set autoprops. Generally, I want language help with making immutable types. Use of {} for namespace and class and method and property/indexer blocks and multi-statement blocks and array initializers. Makes it hard to figure out where you are when they're far apart or mismatched. I hate writing (from x in y ... select).Z(). I don't want to have to fall back to method call syntax because the query syntax is missing something. I want a do clause on query syntax, which is like foreach. But it's not really a query then.

我真的到达这里了。我认为c#非常棒,而且很难发现它有什么缺陷。

Perl

Mixed use of sigils my @array = ( 1, 2, 3 ); my $array = [ 4, 5, 6 ]; my $one = $array[0]; # not @array[0], you would get the length instead my $four = $array->[0]; # definitely not $array[0] my( $two, $three ) = @array[1,2]; my( $five, $six ) = @$array[1,2]; # coerce to array first my $length_a = @array; my $length_s = @$array; my $ref_a = \@array; my $ref_s = $array; For example none of these are the same: $array[0] # First element of @array @array[0] # Slice of only the First element of @array %array[0] # Syntax error $array->[0] # First element of an array referenced by $array @array->[0] # Deprecated first element of @array %array->[0] # Invalid reference $array{0} # Element of %array referenced by string '0' @array{0} # Slice of only one element of %array referenced by string '0' %array{0} # Syntax error $array->{0} # Element of a hash referenced by $array @array->{0} # Invalid reference %array->{0} # Deprecated Element of %array referenced by string '0' In Perl6 it is written: my @array = ( 1, 2, 3 ); my $array = [ 4, 5, 6 ]; my $one = @array[0]; my $four = $array[0]; # $array.[0] my( $two, $three ) = @array[1,2]; my( $five, $six ) = $array[1,2]; my $length_a = @array.length; my $length_s = $array.length; my $ref_a = @array; my $ref_s = $array; Lack of true OO package my_object; # fake constructor sub new{ bless {}, $_[0] } # fake properties/attributes sub var_a{ my $self = shift @_; $self->{'var_a'} = $_[0] if @_; $self->{'var_a'} } In Perl6 it is written: class Dog is Mammal { has $.name = "fido"; has $.tail is rw; has @.legs; has $!brain; method doit ($a, $b, $c) { ... } ... } Poorly designed regex features /(?=regexp)/; # look ahead /(?<=fixed-regexp)/; # look behind /(?!regexp)/; # negative look ahead /(?<!fixed-regexp)/; # negative look behind /(?>regexp)/; # independent sub expression /(capture)/; # simple capture /(?:don't capture)/; # non-capturing group /(?<name>regexp)/; # named capture /[A-Z]/; # character class /[^A-Z]/; # inverted character class # '-' would have to be the first or last element in # the character class to include it in the match # without escaping it /(?(condition)yes-regexp)/; /(?(condition)yes-regexp|no-regexp)/; /\b\s*\b/; # almost matches Perl6's <ws> /(?{ print "hi\n" })/; # run perl code In Perl6 it is written: / <?before pattern> /; # lookahead / <?after pattern> /; # lookbehind / regexp :: pattern /; # backtracking control / ( capture ) /; # simple capture / $<name>=[ regexp ] /; # named capture / [ don't capture ] /; # non-capturing group / <[A..Z]> /; # character class / <-[A..Z]> /; # inverted character class # you don't generally use '.' in a character class anyway / <ws> /; # Smart whitespace match / { say 'hi' } /; # run perl code Lack of multiple dispatch sub f( int $i ){ ... } # err sub f( float $i ){ ... } # err sub f($){ ... } # occasionally useful In Perl6 it is written: multi sub f( int $i ){ ... } multi sub f( num $i ){ ... } multi sub f( $i where $i == 0 ){ ... } multi sub f( $i ){ ... } # everything else Poor Operator overloading package my_object; use overload '+' => \&add, ... ; In Perl6 it is written: multi sub infix:<+> (Us $us, Them $them) | (Them $them, Us $us) { ... }

R (R- project for statistics)

糟糕透顶的字符串支撑 对于一些简单的描述任务,比如交叉表格,是非常困难的 大型数据集操作是在内存中完成的。

C++

模板的语法 钻石传承问题 现代语言所拥有的标准库过多/缺乏(尽管boost也很接近)。 iostream IOStreams周围使用的语法

Python

空格是有意义的(有时) 强调关键词 有限的线程支持(至少目前) 用self代替this 空格是有意义的(有时)