Emacs和Vim之间有什么实际的、客观的区别?例如,使用一个可以做而另一个不行(或者使用一个比另一个更容易做)?为了选择一门课程,我应该知道些什么?


当前回答

如果您经常从一个站点移动到另一个站点,或者您的工作涉及到登录到生产系统,那么vim就是合适的选择。

默认情况下,所有*nix机器都会安装vi。

大多数sysdamins更喜欢ksh作为默认shell。KSH使用vi(或emacs)命令击键来搜索历史记录并编辑命令行。

如果你不太了解vi,当你登录到一个标准配置的unix机器上时,你就会受到严重的限制。

仅仅因为这个原因,我推荐vim作为你日常的编辑器。我曾经见过emacs爱好者试图在一个基本的unix服务器上修改配置文件。

其他回答

我想引用《UNIX编程的艺术》一书中的一段话:

Many people who regularly use both vi and Emacs tend to use them for different things, and find it valuable to know both. In general, vi is best for small jobs – quick replies to mail, simple tweaks to system configuration, and the like. It is especially useful when you’re using a new system (or a remote one over a network) and don’t have your Emacs customization files handy. Emacs comes into its own for extended editing sessions in which you have to handle complex tasks, modify multiple files, and use results from other programs during the session. For programmers using X on their console (which is typical on modern Unixes), it’s normal to start up Emacs shortly after login time in a large window and leave it running forever, possibly visiting dozens of files and even running programs in multiple Emacs subwindows.

我在这里真正想强调的是:“许多人发现两者都知道是有价值的。

Emacs的好处

Emacs has both non-modal interface (by default) and modal one (e.g. it can emulate vim and vi through Evil, Viper, or Vimpulse). One of the most ported computer programs. It runs in text mode and under graphical user interfaces on a wide variety of operating systems, including most Unix-like systems (Linux, the various BSDs, Solaris, AIX, IRIX, macOSetc.), MS-DOS, Microsoft Windows, AmigaOS, and OpenVMS. Unix systems, both free and proprietary, frequently provide Emacs bundled with the operating system. Emacs server architecture allows multiple clients to attach to the same Emacs instance and share the buffer list, kill ring, undo history and other state. Pervasive online help system with keybindings, functions and commands documented on the fly. Extensible and customizable Lisp programming language variant (Emacs Lisp), with features that include: A powerful and extensible file manager (dired), integrated debugger, and a large set of development and other tools. Having every command be an Emacs Lisp function enables commands to DWIM (Do What I Mean) by programmatically responding to past actions and document state. For example, a switch-or-split-window command could switch to another window if one exists, or create one if needed. This cuts down on the number of keystrokes and commands a user must remember. "An OS inside an OS". Emacs Lisp enables Emacs to be programmed far beyond editing features. Even a base install contains several dozen applications, including two web browsers, news readers, several mail agents, four IRC clients, a version of ELIZA, and a variety of games. All of these applications are available anywhere Emacs runs, with the same user interface and functionality. Starting with version 24, Emacs includes a package manager, making it easy to install additional applications including alternate web browsers, EMMS (Emacs Multimedia System), and more. Also available are numerous packages for programming, including some targeted at specific language/library combinations or coding styles.

vi类编辑器的好处

Edit commands are composable Vi has a modal interface (which Emacs can emulate) Historically, vi loads faster than Emacs. While deeply associated with UNIX tradition, it runs on all systems that can implement the standard C library, including UNIX, Linux, AmigaOS, DOS, Windows, Mac, BeOS, OpenVMS, IRIX, AIX, HP-UX, BSD and POSIX-compliant systems. Extensible and customizable through Vim script or APIs for interpreted languages such as Python, Ruby, Perl, and Lua Ubiquitous. Essentially all Unix and Unix-like systems come with vi (or a variant) built-in. Vi (and ex, but not vim) is specified in the POSIX standard. System rescue environments, embedded systems (notably those with busybox) and other constrained environments often include vi, but not emacs.

来源:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editor_war

我一开始是vim的用户,然后我切换到emacs,然后是vim,现在我又在尝试使用emacs。

两人都是伟大的编辑。 如今,两者都是可扩展的 两者都有很棒的插件和社区

作为开发人员,我们输入很多,最后对我来说,在缓冲区和文件中移动是最大的重复任务,所以我想要一个编辑器,我可以快速移动!

再次尝试emacs的动机是,我发现它的Ctrl键比vim更快,而且更容易推理。

在vim中,你有模式,你有插入模式,可视模式,正常模式,当你按下某个东西时会发生什么取决于你所处的模式,这是一种有状态的编辑方式。移动,进入插入模式,编辑,退出插入模式,然后再次移动。如果我错过了ESC按键或类似的东西,我经常会迷失自我。

在emacs中没有模式,基本上你用你的粉色按下Ctrl并键入按键,比如C-x C-f, C-x C-s, C-x C-c。有一些你需要释放ctrl键的键绑定,我讨厌这些键绑定,总是用按下control键的键绑定来替换它们。

我认为emacs方法更快地思考和输入,但是vim有另一个优点,那就是。它的命令是可组合的,它们通常有一个格式。例如,要删除一行,可以使用dd,删除一个单词dw。插件利用了这种感觉,使用vim-surround插件,你可以用ds”(delete surround)删除引号,删除到下一个/ dt/。删除之前的/:dT/,以此类推。所以只要你学会了移动的东西就会变得很有趣。

综上所述,今天我发现emacs键绑定在宏编辑方面更快,而vim命令在微编辑方面更强大

在过去的五年里,我一直在使用vim,所以我的编辑思想主要是关于单词、线条、周围环境、块等。删除这一行,删除引号,替换引号, 删除字在游标,我试图找到emacs移动为那

最后我想说的是,我更关心fzf而不是emacs或vim,我希望有一个完全基于fzf的编辑器

在日常层面上有巨大的区别——Vim(或任何vi变体)本质上是模态的(你进入命令模式,但你不能编辑),而Emacs(以及大多数其他编辑器)不是。

当然,使用菜单之类的东西,你不需要在Vim中实际进入命令模式——首先。但即使使用Vim的一小部分力量,你也会。这是Vim/Emacs争论的核心。

就我个人而言,我还认为Emacs的可扩展性要强得多。你可以找到很多东西的Elisp包。

不过,我很好奇,为什么您考虑学习其中一种而不是更传统的IDE。你为什么要学这个?

我已经在生产/研究环境中使用spacemacs大约2年,neovim大约1年。Spacemacs是带有一些额外功能的emacs,比如图层等。neovim又是vim的一个分支,具有一些额外的特性。

就经验而言,我对他们俩都不太满意。我仍然在寻找一个长期的解决方案来满足我的文本编辑需求。

这里有一个简单的对比:

Neovim, vim, emacs, spacemacs, etc all of those editors consume less ressources compared to most of the editors out there. Neovim/vim is slightly faster than emacs, noticably faster than spacemacs. In terms of editing experience. I can easily say that emacs packages feel superior. I think that's because they blend in better with the core of emacs. Vimscript is nice and there are certainly great projects in the vim ecosystem as well. The good thing is they are better documented than most emacs projects I have seen so far. Both can be glitchy depending on the package you are using. Spacemacs tend to freeze, and neovim tend to display scary error messages, so pick your poison there. Modal editing in vim, is not an intuitive concept, but once you get used to it, you want it anywere. Both of the editor provide that.