这个问题来自于对过去50年左右计算领域各种进展的评论。

其他一些与会者请我把这个问题作为一个问题向整个论坛提出。

这里的基本思想不是抨击事物的现状,而是试图理解提出基本新思想和原则的过程。

我认为我们在大多数计算领域都需要真正的新想法,我想知道最近已经完成的任何重要而有力的想法。如果我们真的找不到他们,那么我们应该问“为什么?”和“我们应该做什么?”


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如果我们作为一个团体认真地回答这个问题。 不幸的是,我相信我们需要的不仅仅是一串随机的善意的帖子! 我知道,这听起来很无聊,但经常把事情做完才是!

We Write a list of powerful ideas in the area of computing Maybe we should define a few categories to separate each one because videoconference somehow does not fit well with object oriented programming. Seeing ideas by categories makes it easier to generate them without redundancy. It's too easy to sidetrack in teleportation if quantum computing is not kept away from flying cars. Try to attribute each of them a date This will settle the before/after 1980 and restrict debate about each idea to its own. It will be fun to dig for earliest reference, first known implementation, etc. Plus this will allow people like me who were 2 years old in 1980 to have a better idea of what was common programming knowledge in 1980 (nothing beats being there at the time) Try to attribute each of them the current state of their implementation Ok, some idea were sci-fi in 1850, with early development in the 1970 and serious improvement breakthrough in the 1990. Some ideas are just starting to get around. Some are almost forgotten. Probably the wiki thing is a good idea. I think this could really get somewhere if slightly organized. I did not check, but maybe this whole thing already exist already on the net (I usually find that if you think about something, someone already did it). What do you think ? Cheers !

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开放的PC设计带来了价格实惠的组件(苹果除外),竞争推动了创新和更低的价格。 这导致了巨大的变化,从用户走向电脑——那里有一个终端可以使用——到电脑来到用户面前,出现在家里,甚至在一个人的大腿上。

软件:

虚拟化和仿真 P2P数据传输 社区驱动的项目,如维基百科、SETI@home…… 网络爬行和网络搜索引擎,即索引信息分布在世界各地

硬件:

模块化PC 电子纸

即时消息已经出现很长时间了(60年中后期),但是IRC在1988年之前还没有出现。

除此之外,视频通讯(比如,Windows Live Messenger,或Skype,或……)确实改变了我们的沟通方式;)而且是最近才出现的。


<修改> (见VideoConferencing: 1968, alt text http://wpcontent.answers.com/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/64/On_Line_System_Videoconferencing_FJCC_1968.jpg/180px-On_Line_System_Videoconferencing_FJCC_1968.jpg,正如Alan Kay自己在评论中指出的那样:

请再次查看恩格尔巴特在1968年演示的内容(包括实时视频聊天和屏幕共享)。低,猜测真的没有查东西管用。这就是为什么大多数人对事物的发明时间做不充分的假设。)

把它放在我的脸上;),这是理所当然的。

注意:那个时代的“网络摄像头”(视频设置)并不是为普通的客厅设计的;)

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网络摄像头替代文本http://wpcontent.answers.com/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Logitech_Quickcam_Pro_4000.jpg/180px-Logitech_Quickcam_Pro_4000.jpg的推广也有帮助(始于1991年,第一个这样的摄像头,称为CoffeeCam,是针对剑桥大学计算机科学系的特洛伊房间咖啡壶)。

所以:80后:2 / 3:IRC和网络摄像头。

来回答一个稍微不同的问题。我认为我们需要在隐私、信任和声誉方面有大的想法。我的电脑几乎能捕捉到关于我的一切,我在哪里,我说了什么,我打了什么,我看到了什么……大量的信息和同等数量的实体(人、商店、网站、服务),我可能想与他们共享其中的一些信息,即使它只是一个数据块。

我的信息需要挖掘(不是谷歌的,Facebook的或苹果的)。我的计算机需要代表我使用它,因此信任需要端到端。这样我们就可以将新的信息中间商去中介化。

更好的用户界面。

今天的用户界面仍然很糟糕。我指的不是小的方面,而是大的、基本的方面。我不禁注意到,即使是最好的程序也仍然有一些接口,这些接口要么极其复杂,要么需要以其他方式进行大量的抽象思考,而且无法达到传统的非软件工具的易用性。

诚然,这是由于软件可以比传统工具做更多的事情。但这不是接受现状的理由。此外,大多数软件都做得不好。

In general, applications still lack a certain “just works” feeling are too much oriented by what can be done, rather than what should be done. One point that has been raised time and again, and that is still not solved, is the point of saving. Applications crash, destroying hours of work. I have the habit of pressing Ctrl+S every few seconds (of course, this no longer works in web applications). Why do I have to do this? It's mind-numbingly stupid. This is clearly a task for automation. Of course, the application also has to save a diff for every modification I make (basically an infinite undo list) in case I make an error.

解决这个问题其实并不难。在每个应用程序中都很难实现它,因为没有好的API可以做到这一点。编程工具和库必须显著改进,才能在所有平台和程序上轻松实现这些工作,适用于所有具有任意备份存储且不需要用户交互的文件格式。但在我们最终开始编写“好的”应用程序而不仅仅是足够的应用程序之前,这是必要的一步。

I believe that Apple currently approximates the “just works” feeling best in some regards. Take for example their newest version of iPhoto which features a face recognition that automatically groups photos by people appearing in them. That is a classical task that the user does not want to do manually and doesn't understand why the computer doesn't do it automatically. And even iPhoto is still a very long way from a good UI, since said feature still requires ultimate confirmation by the user (for each photo!), since the face recognition engine isn't perfect.