最近Stack Overflow上有一群讨厌perl的人,所以我想我应该把我的“关于你最喜欢的语言你讨厌的五件事”的问题带到Stack Overflow上。拿你最喜欢的语言来说,告诉我你讨厌它的五件事。这些可能只是让你烦恼的事情,承认的设计缺陷,公认的性能问题,或任何其他类别。你只需要讨厌它,它必须是你最喜欢的语言。

不要拿它和其他语言比较,也不要谈论你已经讨厌的语言。不要用你最喜欢的语言谈论你喜欢的事情。我只是想听到你讨厌但能容忍的东西,这样你就可以使用所有其他的东西,我想听到你希望别人使用的语言。

每当有人试图把他们最喜欢的语言强加给我时,我就会问这个问题,有时是面试问题。如果有人找不出他最喜欢的工具的5个缺点,那他对它还不够了解,不能提倡它,也不能利用它赚大钱。他还没有在足够多的不同情况下使用它来充分探索它。他把它作为一种文化或宗教来倡导,这意味着如果我不选择他最喜欢的技术,我就错了。

我不在乎你用什么语言。不想使用特定的语言?那就不要。你通过尽职调查做出了明智的选择,但仍然没有使用它?好吧。有时正确的答案是“你有一个强大的编程团队,有良好的实践和丰富的Bar经验。改成Foo是愚蠢的。”


This is a good question for code reviews too. People who really know a codebase will have all sorts of suggestions for it, and those who don't know it so well have non-specific complaints. I ask things like "If you could start over on this project, what would you do differently?" In this fantasy land, users and programmers get to complain about anything and everything they don't like. "I want a better interface", "I want to separate the model from the view", "I'd use this module instead of this other one", "I'd rename this set of methods", or whatever they really don't like about the current situation. That's how I get a handle on how much a particular developer knows about the codebase. It's also a clue about how much of the programmer's ego is tied up in what he's telling me.

憎恨并不是衡量人们了解多少的唯一尺度,但我发现它是一个相当不错的尺度。他们讨厌的事情也让我知道他们对这个话题的思考有多好。


当前回答

HyperTalk:

很久很久以前就死了 没有简单的赋值(你不能说a:= 3,你必须说把3放进a 没有嵌套函数 没有真正的数据结构,只有字符串。要创建“列表”,您可以使用itemDelimiter分隔项并手动转义它们。你也可以得到行和单词比如txt的第5行第2个单词

说句题外话,我认为HyperTalk最酷的独特功能之一是特殊的it变量:

ask "How many years old are you?"
answer "You are " & it*12 & " months old."

其他回答

我自己最讨厌c++的5个地方:

自动生成构造函数、析构函数和赋值操作符。伙计,每当我在课上没有声明什么东西时,这意味着我不需要它,而不是我忘记了。你们这些编辑们,听到了吗?!

[4]模板语法。哦,我真的需要输入所有这些“<”和“>”,每当我决定从类主体提取定义?

[3]字符串。天啊,我受够了“const char*”,我必须处理NULL情况,我必须浪费O(N)来获得它的长度,我必须为concat操作分配缓冲区。

[2] Macroprocessing。每当我不明白,什么是我的编译器,我开始寻找宏。

[1]操作符重载。我看到代码“A + B * C”,在我看到A、B和C的实际类型之前,我说不出这个代码是关于什么的。

Haskell

Sometimes the type system feels backwards. What if I don't want the compiler to infer types for my variables? What if I want the opposite, where it does constraint checking on said variables? For example, instead of inferring the type of the elements of a list, it instead makes sure that they all belong to a particular typeclass. This is a subtle but huge difference that makes it difficult for me to program UIs. It can be done, but it takes more effort than it does in some other languages. Haskell rocks for the non-UI parts, but the UI I leave to an untyped language. Allowing the construction of infinite values leads to some really frustrating errors sometimes. NoMonomorphismRestriction. Bytestring handling bites me in the ass sometimes and you don't know it until your program crashes because you mixed them up improperly. Something is wrong here, when we are losing type information that should have prevented this. Typeclasses should be automatically derived for trivial cases, like witness types, but there's a strong potential for abuse there.

我讨厌内梅尔的五个方面:

局部函数不能让步 编译lambda的能力有时取决于它是否内联 元组的值/引用类型语义不一致 数组下标和类型参数之间偶尔会出现歧义 缺乏普遍采用

Java

已检查的异常 类型擦除 缺少操作符重载(例如BigInteger/BigDecimal) 缺少regexp/date/duration /复杂文字 对不可变性的支持很差

Python,:

No switch keyword. And NO, dictionary is not a replacement for it. Not even a bunch of elif statements. Inconsistent line break handling. Why can I do: test = (1, 2, 3) And not: from itertools import cycle, islice, izip Why can't I do: if stuff \ and foo \ or bar: return "Formated string with %(arg)s" % \ {'arg': "bloody slash"} without using slashes? There is not one obvious and only one way to do it. Python fails on its motto just like Java failed on "Write once run anywhere". # what somebody from an another language would do if not test.has_key('foo'): test['foo'] = 0 n = test['foo'] = test['foo'] + 1 vs # what an agnostic beginer would do try: test['foo'] += 1 except KeyError: test['foo'] = 1 n = test['foo'] vs # what you end up after looking for dictionary default value in the python doc test.setdefault('foo', 0) n = test['foo'] = test['foo'] + 1 vs # what I would do n = test['foo'] = test.get('foo', 0) + 1 And the worst is that they don't do exactly the same thing. There are subtle differences. Choice between spaces and tabs. There should be no choice. Pick on, set it in stone and stop fighting. Why can you do that: test = {} test['foo'] = 0 but not: test = [] test[] = 0

附注:" ".join(l)是优秀的人。不要抱怨它,这并不明显,但考虑到迭代器模式,这是正确的方法。