Emacs和Vim之间有什么实际的、客观的区别?例如,使用一个可以做而另一个不行(或者使用一个比另一个更容易做)?为了选择一门课程,我应该知道些什么?


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(以下文字是我的观点,不应被视为事实或侮辱)

With Emacs you are expected to have it open 24/7 and live inside the program, almost everything you do can be done from there. You write your own extensions, use it for note-taking, organization, games, programming, shell access, file access, listening to music, web browsing. It takes weeks and weeks till you will be happy with it and then you will learn new stuff all the time. You will be annoyed when you don't have access to it and constantly change your config. You won't be able to use other peoples emacs versions easily and it won't just be installed. It uses Lisp, which is great. You can make it into anything you want it to be. (anything, at all)

对于Vim,它几乎总是预先安装的。这是太快了。你打开一个文件做一个快速编辑,然后退出。如果您在其他人的机器上,则可以使用基本设置。它的可编辑性不是很好,但它仍然比大多数文本编辑器好得多。它能识别出你大部分时间是在阅读/编辑而不是打字,并使这部分工作更快。你的小指没有emacs症状。这并没有那么令人愤怒。这样更容易学。

即使我每天都在使用Emacs(而且喜欢它),除非你打算在你选择的程序上花费大量时间,否则我会选择vim

其他回答

如果您经常从一个站点移动到另一个站点,或者您的工作涉及到登录到生产系统,那么vim就是合适的选择。

默认情况下,所有*nix机器都会安装vi。

大多数sysdamins更喜欢ksh作为默认shell。KSH使用vi(或emacs)命令击键来搜索历史记录并编辑命令行。

如果你不太了解vi,当你登录到一个标准配置的unix机器上时,你就会受到严重的限制。

仅仅因为这个原因,我推荐vim作为你日常的编辑器。我曾经见过emacs爱好者试图在一个基本的unix服务器上修改配置文件。

If you are looking for an objective analysis of both the editors, look at their origins and the philosophy behind their respective designs. Think, which one would suit you better and learn it (and learn it and learn it, because it takes time before you being to discover its true utility as against any IDE). An Introduction to Display Editing with Vi was written by Bill Joy and Mark Horton and he explains why he choose modal design and rationale for various key strokes ( it helps me to remember that CTRL-W +W (will switch to next Window and it will same for CTRL W+ CTRL W, just in case you held the CTRL key for a longer duration.

这里有一个Emacs时间轴的链接,并有对Multics Emacs论文的参考。这是一篇关于Emacs的RMS论文,我看到重点在可编程文本编辑器上(甚至早在1981年或更早的时候)。

我没有读过emacs的论文,但是读过Bill Joy的vi论文几次。 两者都是旧的,但你仍然会得到哲学,你可以选择使用当前的工具(vim 7。X还是emacs 25?)

编辑:我忘了说,阅读这两篇论文需要耐心和想象力,因为它会让你在阅读时回到过去。但这是值得的。

(以下文字是我的观点,不应被视为事实或侮辱)

With Emacs you are expected to have it open 24/7 and live inside the program, almost everything you do can be done from there. You write your own extensions, use it for note-taking, organization, games, programming, shell access, file access, listening to music, web browsing. It takes weeks and weeks till you will be happy with it and then you will learn new stuff all the time. You will be annoyed when you don't have access to it and constantly change your config. You won't be able to use other peoples emacs versions easily and it won't just be installed. It uses Lisp, which is great. You can make it into anything you want it to be. (anything, at all)

对于Vim,它几乎总是预先安装的。这是太快了。你打开一个文件做一个快速编辑,然后退出。如果您在其他人的机器上,则可以使用基本设置。它的可编辑性不是很好,但它仍然比大多数文本编辑器好得多。它能识别出你大部分时间是在阅读/编辑而不是打字,并使这部分工作更快。你的小指没有emacs症状。这并没有那么令人愤怒。这样更容易学。

即使我每天都在使用Emacs(而且喜欢它),除非你打算在你选择的程序上花费大量时间,否则我会选择vim

Seems an answer has been selected already, but the big difference to me has always been the modal vs. non-modal. Vim is modal, which means that it makes optimizations based on a specific set of usage modes. At least that's how I've always looked at it. This makes using Vim a different experience because instead of having a work area that you type code in, you really are telling an environment to act on the text. This is why people say things like with Vim you really are learning a language. The :wq and :s/foo/bar is all part of a shell like environment that edits and reads text.

Emacs on the other hand is much closer to most editors/word processors/etc. you see today. You have a workspace that has a highly programmable interface. That is why you see things like email, irc, shells, etc. As a programmer it is easy to think in terms of saying "take the line number I'm on and do something with the information". The desire to leave the editor becomes less because instead of having to quit, open some other app/language and do things on some text, you have Emacs where you can do these things within the scope of your editor.

这两种观点并不一定是对立的,只是它们揭示了两个不同的焦点。就我个人而言,我使用Emacs,但我见过非常了解Vim的人,他们可以诚实地说,选择哪种并不重要。我首先尝试了Vim,但Emacs最终支持了我。的确,无论您选择什么,您都应该至少在一定程度上精通Vim,因为它总是可用的。

对我来说,emacs有更好的开发工具(不仅仅是基于标记的工具)。

Cedet(c/c++) Xrefactory(c/c++/java) 史莱姆(普通口齿) JDEE(java) 欧洲央行(代码浏览器) GDB 支持 NXML(xml)