Emacs和Vim之间有什么实际的、客观的区别?例如,使用一个可以做而另一个不行(或者使用一个比另一个更容易做)?为了选择一门课程,我应该知道些什么?


当前回答

VI总是可用的,并且将在最残缺的、单用户模式、坏的图形、没有键图、慢的链接机器上运行——因此,仅仅为了系统管理任务,了解如何在它中编辑简单的文件是值得的。

Emacs是一个编辑器中的完整用户界面。其思想是在启动机器时启动Emacs,并且永远不要离开它。可能会有数千个会话。

与使用GUI编辑器/IDE和使用python/awk/等来完成额外任务相比,学习Emacs的功能是否值得,取决于你自己。

其他回答

我已经在生产/研究环境中使用spacemacs大约2年,neovim大约1年。Spacemacs是带有一些额外功能的emacs,比如图层等。neovim又是vim的一个分支,具有一些额外的特性。

就经验而言,我对他们俩都不太满意。我仍然在寻找一个长期的解决方案来满足我的文本编辑需求。

这里有一个简单的对比:

Neovim, vim, emacs, spacemacs, etc all of those editors consume less ressources compared to most of the editors out there. Neovim/vim is slightly faster than emacs, noticably faster than spacemacs. In terms of editing experience. I can easily say that emacs packages feel superior. I think that's because they blend in better with the core of emacs. Vimscript is nice and there are certainly great projects in the vim ecosystem as well. The good thing is they are better documented than most emacs projects I have seen so far. Both can be glitchy depending on the package you are using. Spacemacs tend to freeze, and neovim tend to display scary error messages, so pick your poison there. Modal editing in vim, is not an intuitive concept, but once you get used to it, you want it anywere. Both of the editor provide that.

Seems an answer has been selected already, but the big difference to me has always been the modal vs. non-modal. Vim is modal, which means that it makes optimizations based on a specific set of usage modes. At least that's how I've always looked at it. This makes using Vim a different experience because instead of having a work area that you type code in, you really are telling an environment to act on the text. This is why people say things like with Vim you really are learning a language. The :wq and :s/foo/bar is all part of a shell like environment that edits and reads text.

Emacs on the other hand is much closer to most editors/word processors/etc. you see today. You have a workspace that has a highly programmable interface. That is why you see things like email, irc, shells, etc. As a programmer it is easy to think in terms of saying "take the line number I'm on and do something with the information". The desire to leave the editor becomes less because instead of having to quit, open some other app/language and do things on some text, you have Emacs where you can do these things within the scope of your editor.

这两种观点并不一定是对立的,只是它们揭示了两个不同的焦点。就我个人而言,我使用Emacs,但我见过非常了解Vim的人,他们可以诚实地说,选择哪种并不重要。我首先尝试了Vim,但Emacs最终支持了我。的确,无论您选择什么,您都应该至少在一定程度上精通Vim,因为它总是可用的。

If you are looking for an objective analysis of both the editors, look at their origins and the philosophy behind their respective designs. Think, which one would suit you better and learn it (and learn it and learn it, because it takes time before you being to discover its true utility as against any IDE). An Introduction to Display Editing with Vi was written by Bill Joy and Mark Horton and he explains why he choose modal design and rationale for various key strokes ( it helps me to remember that CTRL-W +W (will switch to next Window and it will same for CTRL W+ CTRL W, just in case you held the CTRL key for a longer duration.

这里有一个Emacs时间轴的链接,并有对Multics Emacs论文的参考。这是一篇关于Emacs的RMS论文,我看到重点在可编程文本编辑器上(甚至早在1981年或更早的时候)。

我没有读过emacs的论文,但是读过Bill Joy的vi论文几次。 两者都是旧的,但你仍然会得到哲学,你可以选择使用当前的工具(vim 7。X还是emacs 25?)

编辑:我忘了说,阅读这两篇论文需要耐心和想象力,因为它会让你在阅读时回到过去。但这是值得的。

如果您经常从一个站点移动到另一个站点,或者您的工作涉及到登录到生产系统,那么vim就是合适的选择。

默认情况下,所有*nix机器都会安装vi。

大多数sysdamins更喜欢ksh作为默认shell。KSH使用vi(或emacs)命令击键来搜索历史记录并编辑命令行。

如果你不太了解vi,当你登录到一个标准配置的unix机器上时,你就会受到严重的限制。

仅仅因为这个原因,我推荐vim作为你日常的编辑器。我曾经见过emacs爱好者试图在一个基本的unix服务器上修改配置文件。

我一开始是vim的用户,然后我切换到emacs,然后是vim,现在我又在尝试使用emacs。

两人都是伟大的编辑。 如今,两者都是可扩展的 两者都有很棒的插件和社区

作为开发人员,我们输入很多,最后对我来说,在缓冲区和文件中移动是最大的重复任务,所以我想要一个编辑器,我可以快速移动!

再次尝试emacs的动机是,我发现它的Ctrl键比vim更快,而且更容易推理。

在vim中,你有模式,你有插入模式,可视模式,正常模式,当你按下某个东西时会发生什么取决于你所处的模式,这是一种有状态的编辑方式。移动,进入插入模式,编辑,退出插入模式,然后再次移动。如果我错过了ESC按键或类似的东西,我经常会迷失自我。

在emacs中没有模式,基本上你用你的粉色按下Ctrl并键入按键,比如C-x C-f, C-x C-s, C-x C-c。有一些你需要释放ctrl键的键绑定,我讨厌这些键绑定,总是用按下control键的键绑定来替换它们。

我认为emacs方法更快地思考和输入,但是vim有另一个优点,那就是。它的命令是可组合的,它们通常有一个格式。例如,要删除一行,可以使用dd,删除一个单词dw。插件利用了这种感觉,使用vim-surround插件,你可以用ds”(delete surround)删除引号,删除到下一个/ dt/。删除之前的/:dT/,以此类推。所以只要你学会了移动的东西就会变得很有趣。

综上所述,今天我发现emacs键绑定在宏编辑方面更快,而vim命令在微编辑方面更强大

在过去的五年里,我一直在使用vim,所以我的编辑思想主要是关于单词、线条、周围环境、块等。删除这一行,删除引号,替换引号, 删除字在游标,我试图找到emacs移动为那

最后我想说的是,我更关心fzf而不是emacs或vim,我希望有一个完全基于fzf的编辑器