这个问题来自于对过去50年左右计算领域各种进展的评论。

其他一些与会者请我把这个问题作为一个问题向整个论坛提出。

这里的基本思想不是抨击事物的现状,而是试图理解提出基本新思想和原则的过程。

我认为我们在大多数计算领域都需要真正的新想法,我想知道最近已经完成的任何重要而有力的想法。如果我们真的找不到他们,那么我们应该问“为什么?”和“我们应该做什么?”


当前回答

至于编程概念,IoC /依赖注入在1988年,根在1983年。福勒在他的Bliki上对这个概念的历史做了一些注释。

其他回答

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Facebook、Twitter、Buzz、柴酷……实现是不同的,侧重于不同的方面-管理受众,简洁性,讨论。特定的服务来来去去,但新的通信概念仍然存在。博客当然是这一切的开端,但新的服务使交流变得具有社会性,这是一个本质的区别。

虽然不太确定这是否属于计算的范畴,但这是很重要的,只有通过计算和网络才能实现。

我认为,在1980年,如果你在使用一台电脑,你要么是在赚钱,要么就是一个极客……那么发生了什么变化呢?

Printers and consumer-level desktop publishing. Meant you didn't need a printing press to make high-volume, high-quality printed material. That was big - of course, nowadays we completely take it for granted, and mostly we don't even bother with the printing part because everyone's online anyway. Colour. Seriously. Colour screens made a huge difference to non-geeks' perception of games & applications. Suddenly games seemed less like hard work and more like watching TV, which opened the doors for Sega, Nintendo, Atari et al to bring consumer gaming into the home. Media compression (MP3s and video files). And a whole bunch of things - like TiVO and iPods - that we don't really think of as computers any more because they're so ubiquitous and so user-friendly. But they are.

我认为,这里的共同点是曾经不可能的事情(制作打印文档;准确再现彩色图像;实时向世界各地发送消息;分发音频和视频材料),当时因为设备和物流成本昂贵,现在是消费者水平。那么,大公司现在在做什么过去是不可能的,但如果我们能想出如何做小而便宜的事情,可能会很酷?

任何涉及物理运输的东西都是有趣的。视频会议(目前)还没有取代真实的会议,但如果技术合适,它仍有可能取代真实的会议。一些休闲旅行可以被全感官沉浸式环境所取代——家庭影院就是一个微不足道的例子;另一个是位于Soho区一栋写字楼内的“虚拟高尔夫球场”,在这里,你可以在模拟球场上打18洞真正的高尔夫球。

不过,对我来说,下一个真正重要的事情将是制造。做的事情。勺子,吉他,椅子,衣服,汽车,瓷砖什么的。这些仍然依赖于生产和分销基础设施。我再也不用去商店买电影或专辑了——什么时候我就不用去商店买衣服和厨具了?

Sure, there are interesting developments going on with OLED displays and GPS and mobile broadband and IoC containers and scripting and "the cloud" - but it's all still just new-fangled ways of putting pictures on a screen. I can print my own photos and write my own web pages, but I want to be able to fabricate a linen basket that fits exactly into that nook beside my desk, and a mounting bracket for sticking my guitar FX unit to my desk, and something for clipping my cellphone to my bike handlebars.

与编程无关?不…但在1980年,声音制作也不是。或者视频分发。或者给赞比亚的亲戚发信息。大处着眼,伙计们……:)

自1980年以来,关于社会计算的想法已经取得了进展。油井工程始于1985年。虽然我确信以前有在线社区,但我相信该领域的一些真正的见解发生在1980年之后。社会社区的不利动态方面及其在软件系统上的交互很像塔科马海峡大桥的灾难。

我认为Clay Shirky在该领域的工作阐明了这些影响以及如何减轻它们。我想说,社交软件洞察力的有趣的现实世界的例子包括reCAPTCHA和维基百科,其中重要的有价值的工作是由软件调解的参与者完成的。

我认为没有什么重要的东西被发明出来。但自80年代以来,人们对软件的看法发生了很大变化。那时有更多的理论家参与其中,现在你在一个程序员论坛上问这个问题。

当时的大多数想法都没有得到实施,或者即使实施了,它们也没有任何真正的重要性,因为当时的软件行业还不存在,市场营销、人力资源、开发阶段或alpha版本也不存在:)。

Another reason for this lack of inventions is the fact that most people use Windows:) dont get me wrong, i do hate M$, but look at it this way: you have a perfectly working interface, with nothing new to add to it, maybe just some new colored buttons. Its also closed enough so you wont be able to to anything with it without breaking it. Thats why i prefer open apps, this way you get more "open" people, to whom yo can actually talk, ask then questions, propose new ideeas that actually gets implemented, or at least put on an open todo-list, thus you get some kind of "evolution". You dont really see anything new because you are stuck with the same basic interface "invented" lots of years ago... did anyone actually tried ION window-manager in a production environment? It has a new kind of interface, and actually lets you do things faster, event it it looks quirky

M$, Adobe..you name it,holds lots of patents so you wont be able to base your work on them, or derivatives(you also wont know what kind of undeveloped tehnologies they hold). Look at MP3 and GIF as examples( i belive that they are both free formats now, but they are also kinda dead..) MP3 is the 'king' of audio evend if there are few algorithms out there much better that it..but didnt get enough traction because they weren't pushed on the consumer market. The GIF... come on, 256 colors??? From this point of voew i'm curios how many people from this thread are working on something "open" that will get to be reused in some other projects, and how many on "closed", protected by NDA's projects?

即使这听起来有点像“免费的威利”,但在80年代,软件是免费的,所有东西都有文档,所有硬件都更简单,更容易使用……同时也更加有限,所以人们并没有浪费时间去执行3d游戏或网页,而是致力于真正的算法。

20年前:面向对象编程——更好地处理软件复杂性。

现在:云计算——为了更好地处理硬件复杂性。

未来:说明性的东西,但它还需要20年。