在关于C的一个有信誉的来源中,在讨论&操作符后给出了以下信息:

... 有点不幸的是,术语[地址的]仍然存在,因为它混淆了那些不知道地址是关于什么的人,并误导了那些知道地址的人:将指针视为地址通常会导致悲伤……

我读过的其他材料(来自同样有名望的来源,我想说)总是毫不掩饰地将指针和&操作符作为内存地址。我很愿意继续寻找事情的真相,但当有信誉的消息来源不同意时,这有点困难。

现在我有点困惑了——如果指针不是内存地址,那么它到底是什么?

P.S.

作者后来说:……不过,我将继续使用“地址”这个术语,因为发明一个不同的(术语)会更糟糕。


当前回答

简短的总结 (我也会把它放在顶部):

将指针视为地址通常是一个很好的学习工具,并且通常是普通数据类型指针的实际实现。

(1)但是在许多,也许是大多数编译器上,指向函数的指针不是地址,而是比地址大(通常是2倍,有时更多),或者实际上是指向内存中结构体的指针,而不是包含函数地址和常量池之类的东西。

(2)指向数据成员的指针和指向方法的指针通常更奇怪。

(3)遗留的x86代码的FAR和NEAR指针问题

(4)几个例子,最著名的是IBM AS/400,具有安全的“胖指针”。

我相信你能找到更多。

细节:

UMMPPHHH ! !到目前为止,许多答案都是相当典型的“程序员菜鸟”答案——但不是编译器菜鸟或硬件菜鸟。因为我假装是一个硬件弱项,并且经常与编译器弱项一起工作,让我抛出我的意见:

在许多(可能是大多数)C编译器中,指向类型为T的数据的指针实际上是T的地址。

很好。

但是,即使在许多这样的编译器上,某些指针也不是地址。你可以通过sizeof(ThePointer)来判断。

For example, pointers to functions are sometimes quite a lot bigger than ordinary addresses. Or, they may involve a level of indirection. This article provides one description, involving the Intel Itanium processor, but I have seen others. Typically, to call a function you must know not only the address of the function code, but also the address of the function's constant pool - a region of memory from which constants are loaded with a single load instruction, rather than the compiler having to generate a 64 bit constant out of several Load Immediate and Shift and OR instructions. So, rather than a single 64 bit address, you need 2 64 bit addresses. Some ABIs (Application Binary Interfaces) move this around as 128 bits, whereas others use a level of indirection, with the function pointer actually being the address of a function descriptor that contains the 2 actual addresses just mentioned. Which is better? Depends on your point of view: performance, code size, and some compatibility issues - often code assumes that a pointer can be cast to a long or a long long, but may also assume that the long long is exactly 64 bits. Such code may not be standards compliant, but nevertheless customers may want it to work.

我们中的许多人都对旧的英特尔x86分段架构有痛苦的记忆,有NEAR指针和FAR指针。值得庆幸的是,这些几乎已经灭绝了,所以只有一个快速的总结:在16位实模式中,实际的线性地址是

LinearAddress = SegmentRegister[SegNum].base << 4 + Offset

而在保护模式下,它可能是

LinearAddress = SegmentRegister[SegNum].base + offset

with the resulting address being checked against a limit set in the segment. Some programs used not really standard C/C++ FAR and NEAR pointer declarations, but many just said *T --- but there were compiler and linker switches so, for example, code pointers might be near pointers, just a 32 bit offset against whatever is in the CS (Code Segment) register, while the data pointers might be FAR pointers, specifying both a 16 bit segment number and a 32 bit offset for a 48 bit value. Now, both of these quantities are certainly related to the address, but since they aren't the same size, which of them is the address? Moreover, the segments also carried permissions - read-only, read-write, executable - in addition to stuff related to the actual address.

A more interesting example, IMHO, is (or, perhaps, was) the IBM AS/400 family. This computer was one of the first to implement an OS in C++. Pointers on this machime were typically 2X the actual address size - e.g. as this presentation says, 128 bit pointers, but the actual addresses were 48-64 bits, and, again, some extra info, what is called a capability, that provided permissions such as read, write, as well as a limit to prevent buffer overflow. Yes: you can do this compatibly with C/C++ -- and if this were ubiquitous, the Chinese PLA and slavic mafia would not be hacking into so many Western computer systems. But historically most C/C++ programming has neglected security for performance. Most interestingly, the AS400 family allowed the operating system to create secure pointers, that could be given to unprivileged code, but which the unprivileged code could not forge or tamper with. Again, security, and while standards compliant, much sloppy non-standards compliant C/C++ code will not work in such a secure system. Again, there are official standards, and there are de-facto standards.

现在,我将放下我的安全演讲,并提到指针(各种类型)通常不是真正地址的其他一些方式:指向数据成员的指针,指向成员函数方法的指针,以及它们的静态版本比普通地址更大。正如这篇文章所说:

有许多方法可以解决这个问题[与单继承和多继承以及虚拟继承有关的问题]。Visual Studio编译器决定如何处理它:指向多重继承类的成员函数的指针实际上是一个结构。” 他们接着说:“强制转换函数指针可以改变它的大小!”

从我对安全性的评论中,您可能会猜到,我曾经参与过C/ c++硬件/软件项目,在这些项目中,指针更像是一种能力,而不是原始地址。

我还可以继续,但我希望你们能明白。

简短的总结 (我也会把它放在顶部):

(0)将指针视为地址通常是一个很好的学习工具,并且通常是普通数据类型指针的实际实现。

(1)但是在许多,也许是大多数编译器上,指向函数的指针不是地址,而是比地址大(通常是2X,有时更多),或者实际上是指向内存中结构体的指针,而不是包含函数地址和常量池之类的东西。

(2)指向数据成员的指针和指向方法的指针通常更奇怪。

(3)遗留的x86代码的FAR和NEAR指针问题

(4)几个例子,最著名的是IBM AS/400,具有安全的“胖指针”。

我相信你能找到更多。

其他回答

指针只是另一个变量,用来保存内存位置的地址(通常是另一个变量的内存地址)。

C指针非常类似于内存地址,但是抽象了与机器相关的细节,以及一些在低级指令集中找不到的特性。

例如,C指针是相对丰富的类型。如果在一个结构数组中增加一个指针,它会很好地从一个结构跳到另一个结构。

指针服从转换规则,并提供编译时类型检查。

有一个特殊的“空指针”值,它在源代码级别是可移植的,但其表示可能不同。如果将值为0的整型常量赋给指针,则该指针的值为空指针。同样,如果你用这种方式初始化一个指针。

指针可以用作布尔变量:如果指针不是null,则为true;如果指针为null,则为false。

在机器语言中,如果空指针是一个有趣的地址,如0xFFFFFFFF,那么您可能必须对该值进行显式测试。C把它藏起来了。即使空指针是0xFFFFFFFF,你也可以使用if (ptr != 0) {/* not null!* /}。

Uses of pointers which subvert the type system lead to undefined behavior, whereas similar code in machine language might be well defined. Assemblers will assemble the instructions you have written, but C compilers will optimize based on the assumption that you haven't done anything wrong. If a float *p pointer points to a long n variable, and *p = 0.0 is executed, the compiler is not required to handle this. A subsequent use of n will not necessary read the bit pattern of the float value, but perhaps, it will be an optimized access which is based on the "strict aliasing" assumption that n has not been touched! That is, the assumption that the program is well-behaved, and so p should not be pointing at n.

在C语言中,指向代码的指针和指向数据的指针是不同的,但在许多体系结构中,它们的地址是相同的。可以开发具有“胖”指针的C编译器,即使目标体系结构没有。胖指针意味着指针不仅仅是机器地址,还包含其他信息,例如用于边界检查的被指向对象的大小信息。可移植编写的程序将很容易移植到这样的编译器。

所以你可以看到,在机器地址和C指针之间有很多语义上的区别。

A pointer, like any other variable in C, is fundamentally a collection of bits which may be represented by one or more concatenated unsigned char values (as with any other type of cariable, sizeof(some_variable) will indicate the number of unsigned char values). What makes a pointer different from other variables is that a C compiler will interpret the bits in a pointer as identifying, somehow, a place where a variable may be stored. In C, unlike some other languages, it is possible to request space for multiple variables, and then convert a pointer to any value in that set into a pointer to any other variable within that set.

Many compilers implement pointers by using their bits store actual machine addresses, but that is not the only possible implementation. An implementation could keep one array--not accessible to user code--listing the hardware address and allocated size of all of the memory objects (sets of variables) which a program was using, and have each pointer contain an index into an array along with an offset from that index. Such a design would allow a system to not only restrict code to only operating upon memory that it owned, but also ensure that a pointer to one memory item could not be accidentally converted into a pointer to another memory item (in a system that uses hardware addresses, if foo and bar are arrays of 10 items that are stored consecutively in memory, a pointer to the "eleventh" item of foo might instead point to the first item of bar, but in a system where each "pointer" is an object ID and an offset, the system could trap if code tried to index a pointer to foo beyond its allocated range). It would also be possible for such a system to eliminate memory-fragmentation problems, since the physical addresses associated with any pointers could be moved around.

Note that while pointers are somewhat abstract, they're not quite abstract enough to allow a fully-standards-compliant C compiler to implement a garbage collector. The C compiler specifies that every variable, including pointers, is represented as a sequence of unsigned char values. Given any variable, one can decompose it into a sequence of numbers and later convert that sequence of numbers back into a variable of the original type. Consequently, it would be possible for a program to calloc some storage (receiving a pointer to it), store something there, decompose the pointer into a series of bytes, display those on the screen, and then erase all reference to them. If the program then accepted some numbers from the keyboard, reconstituted those to a pointer, and then tried to read data from that pointer, and if user entered the same numbers that the program had earlier displayed, the program would be required to output the data that had been stored in the calloc'ed memory. Since there is no conceivable way the computer could know whether the user had made a copy of the numbers that were displayed, there would be no conceivable may the computer could know whether the aforementioned memory might ever be accessed in future.

很难确切地说出这些书的作者到底是什么意思。指针是否包含地址取决于如何定义地址和如何定义指针。

从所有的回答来看,有些人认为(1)地址必须是整数,(2)指针不需要是虚的,因为规范中没有这么说。根据这些假设,显然指针不一定包含地址。

然而,我们看到,虽然(2)可能是真的,(1)可能不一定是真的。根据@ corn秸秆的答案,&被称为操作符的地址,这是怎么回事?这是否意味着规范的作者希望指针包含地址?

我们可以说,指针包含一个地址,但地址不一定是整数?也许吧。

我认为所有这些都是废话连篇的迂腐语义学。实际上,这是毫无价值的。你能想到一个编译器以这样的方式生成代码,指针的值不是一个地址吗?如果有,是什么?我也是这么想的……

我认为这本书的作者(第一个摘录声称指针不一定只是地址)可能指的是指针自带固有类型信息这一事实。

例如,

 int x;
 int* y = &x;
 char* z = &x;

y和z都是指针,但y+1和z+1是不同的。如果它们是内存地址,难道这些表达式不会给你相同的值吗?

在这里,把指针当作地址的想法通常会导致悲伤。之所以会出现bug,是因为人们将指针视为地址,而这通常会导致不幸。

55555可能不是指针,尽管它可能是一个地址,但(int*)55555是一个指针。55555+1 = 55556,但是(int*)55555+1是55559(在sizeof(int)方面的+/-差异)。

Come to think about it, I think it's a matter of semantics. I don't think the author is right, since the C standard refers to a pointer as holding an address to the referenced object as others have already mentioned here. However, address!=memory address. An address can be really anything as per C standard although it will eventually lead to a memory address, the pointer itself can be an id, an offset + selector (x86), really anything as long as it can describe (after mapping) any memory address in the addressable space.