在关于C的一个有信誉的来源中,在讨论&操作符后给出了以下信息:

... 有点不幸的是,术语[地址的]仍然存在,因为它混淆了那些不知道地址是关于什么的人,并误导了那些知道地址的人:将指针视为地址通常会导致悲伤……

我读过的其他材料(来自同样有名望的来源,我想说)总是毫不掩饰地将指针和&操作符作为内存地址。我很愿意继续寻找事情的真相,但当有信誉的消息来源不同意时,这有点困难。

现在我有点困惑了——如果指针不是内存地址,那么它到底是什么?

P.S.

作者后来说:……不过,我将继续使用“地址”这个术语,因为发明一个不同的(术语)会更糟糕。


当前回答

简短的总结 (我也会把它放在顶部):

将指针视为地址通常是一个很好的学习工具,并且通常是普通数据类型指针的实际实现。

(1)但是在许多,也许是大多数编译器上,指向函数的指针不是地址,而是比地址大(通常是2倍,有时更多),或者实际上是指向内存中结构体的指针,而不是包含函数地址和常量池之类的东西。

(2)指向数据成员的指针和指向方法的指针通常更奇怪。

(3)遗留的x86代码的FAR和NEAR指针问题

(4)几个例子,最著名的是IBM AS/400,具有安全的“胖指针”。

我相信你能找到更多。

细节:

UMMPPHHH ! !到目前为止,许多答案都是相当典型的“程序员菜鸟”答案——但不是编译器菜鸟或硬件菜鸟。因为我假装是一个硬件弱项,并且经常与编译器弱项一起工作,让我抛出我的意见:

在许多(可能是大多数)C编译器中,指向类型为T的数据的指针实际上是T的地址。

很好。

但是,即使在许多这样的编译器上,某些指针也不是地址。你可以通过sizeof(ThePointer)来判断。

For example, pointers to functions are sometimes quite a lot bigger than ordinary addresses. Or, they may involve a level of indirection. This article provides one description, involving the Intel Itanium processor, but I have seen others. Typically, to call a function you must know not only the address of the function code, but also the address of the function's constant pool - a region of memory from which constants are loaded with a single load instruction, rather than the compiler having to generate a 64 bit constant out of several Load Immediate and Shift and OR instructions. So, rather than a single 64 bit address, you need 2 64 bit addresses. Some ABIs (Application Binary Interfaces) move this around as 128 bits, whereas others use a level of indirection, with the function pointer actually being the address of a function descriptor that contains the 2 actual addresses just mentioned. Which is better? Depends on your point of view: performance, code size, and some compatibility issues - often code assumes that a pointer can be cast to a long or a long long, but may also assume that the long long is exactly 64 bits. Such code may not be standards compliant, but nevertheless customers may want it to work.

我们中的许多人都对旧的英特尔x86分段架构有痛苦的记忆,有NEAR指针和FAR指针。值得庆幸的是,这些几乎已经灭绝了,所以只有一个快速的总结:在16位实模式中,实际的线性地址是

LinearAddress = SegmentRegister[SegNum].base << 4 + Offset

而在保护模式下,它可能是

LinearAddress = SegmentRegister[SegNum].base + offset

with the resulting address being checked against a limit set in the segment. Some programs used not really standard C/C++ FAR and NEAR pointer declarations, but many just said *T --- but there were compiler and linker switches so, for example, code pointers might be near pointers, just a 32 bit offset against whatever is in the CS (Code Segment) register, while the data pointers might be FAR pointers, specifying both a 16 bit segment number and a 32 bit offset for a 48 bit value. Now, both of these quantities are certainly related to the address, but since they aren't the same size, which of them is the address? Moreover, the segments also carried permissions - read-only, read-write, executable - in addition to stuff related to the actual address.

A more interesting example, IMHO, is (or, perhaps, was) the IBM AS/400 family. This computer was one of the first to implement an OS in C++. Pointers on this machime were typically 2X the actual address size - e.g. as this presentation says, 128 bit pointers, but the actual addresses were 48-64 bits, and, again, some extra info, what is called a capability, that provided permissions such as read, write, as well as a limit to prevent buffer overflow. Yes: you can do this compatibly with C/C++ -- and if this were ubiquitous, the Chinese PLA and slavic mafia would not be hacking into so many Western computer systems. But historically most C/C++ programming has neglected security for performance. Most interestingly, the AS400 family allowed the operating system to create secure pointers, that could be given to unprivileged code, but which the unprivileged code could not forge or tamper with. Again, security, and while standards compliant, much sloppy non-standards compliant C/C++ code will not work in such a secure system. Again, there are official standards, and there are de-facto standards.

现在,我将放下我的安全演讲,并提到指针(各种类型)通常不是真正地址的其他一些方式:指向数据成员的指针,指向成员函数方法的指针,以及它们的静态版本比普通地址更大。正如这篇文章所说:

有许多方法可以解决这个问题[与单继承和多继承以及虚拟继承有关的问题]。Visual Studio编译器决定如何处理它:指向多重继承类的成员函数的指针实际上是一个结构。” 他们接着说:“强制转换函数指针可以改变它的大小!”

从我对安全性的评论中,您可能会猜到,我曾经参与过C/ c++硬件/软件项目,在这些项目中,指针更像是一种能力,而不是原始地址。

我还可以继续,但我希望你们能明白。

简短的总结 (我也会把它放在顶部):

(0)将指针视为地址通常是一个很好的学习工具,并且通常是普通数据类型指针的实际实现。

(1)但是在许多,也许是大多数编译器上,指向函数的指针不是地址,而是比地址大(通常是2X,有时更多),或者实际上是指向内存中结构体的指针,而不是包含函数地址和常量池之类的东西。

(2)指向数据成员的指针和指向方法的指针通常更奇怪。

(3)遗留的x86代码的FAR和NEAR指针问题

(4)几个例子,最著名的是IBM AS/400,具有安全的“胖指针”。

我相信你能找到更多。

其他回答

马克·贝西(Mark Bessey)已经说过了,但这一点需要再次强调,直到人们理解为止。

指针与变量的关系比与文字3的关系更大。

指针是一个值(地址)和类型(带有其他属性,如只读)的元组。类型(以及附加参数(如果有的话)可以进一步定义或限制上下文;如。__far ptr, __near ptr:地址的上下文是什么:堆栈,堆,线性地址,某处的偏移量,物理内存或其他。

正是type的属性使得指针算术与整数算术略有不同。

指针不是变量的反例太多了,不容忽视

fopen返回FILE指针。(变量在哪里) 堆栈指针或帧指针通常是不可寻址的寄存器 *(int *)0x1231330 = 13;——将任意整数值转换为pointer_of_integer类型,并在不引入变量的情况下写入/读取整数值

在c程序的生命周期中,会有许多其他没有地址的临时指针实例——因此它们不是变量,而是带有编译时相关类型的表达式/值。

你是对的,是理智的。通常,指针只是一个地址,因此您可以将其强制转换为整数并进行任何算术运算。

但有时指针只是地址的一部分。在一些体系结构上,指针被转换为一个增加了基数的地址或使用另一个CPU寄存器。

但是现在,在PC和ARM架构上,使用平面内存模型和原生编译的C语言,可以认为指针是指向一维可寻址RAM中某个位置的整数地址。

A pointer value is an address. A pointer variable is an object that can store an address. This is true because that's what the standard defines a pointer to be. It's important to tell it to C novices because C novices are often unclear on the difference between a pointer and the thing it points to (that is to say, they don't know the difference between an envelope and a building). The notion of an address (every object has an address and that's what a pointer stores) is important because it sorts that out.

然而,标准在特定的抽象层次上进行讨论。作者所说的那些“知道地址是关于什么的”,但对C不熟悉的人,必须在不同的抽象级别上学习地址——也许是通过编写汇编语言。不能保证C实现使用与cpu操作码相同的地址表示(在本文中称为“存储地址”),这些人已经知道。

He goes on to talk about "perfectly reasonable address manipulation". As far as the C standard is concerned there's basically no such thing as "perfectly reasonable address manipulation". Addition is defined on pointers and that is basically it. Sure, you can convert a pointer to integer, do some bitwise or arithmetic ops, and then convert it back. This is not guaranteed to work by the standard, so before writing that code you'd better know how your particular C implementation represents pointers and performs that conversion. It probably uses the address representation you expect, but it it doesn't that's your fault because you didn't read the manual. That's not confusion, it's incorrect programming procedure ;-)

简而言之,C使用了比作者更抽象的地址概念。

The author's concept of an address of course is also not the lowest-level word on the matter. What with virtual memory maps and physical RAM addressing across multiple chips, the number that you tell the CPU is "the store address" you want to access has basically nothing to do with where the data you want is actually located in hardware. It's all layers of indirection and representation, but the author has chosen one to privilege. If you're going to do that when talking about C, choose the C level to privilege!

Personally I don't think the author's remarks are all that helpful, except in the context of introducing C to assembly programmers. It's certainly not helpful to those coming from higher level languages to say that pointer values aren't addresses. It would be far better to acknowledge the complexity than it is to say that the CPU has the monopoly on saying what an address is and thus that C pointer values "are not" addresses. They are addresses, but they may be written in a different language from the addresses he means. Distinguishing the two things in the context of C as "address" and "store address" would be adequate, I think.

简单地说,指针实际上是分割机制的偏移部分,分割后转换为线性地址,分页后转换为物理地址。物理地址实际上是从ram中寻址的。

       Selector  +--------------+         +-----------+
      ---------->|              |         |           |
                 | Segmentation | ------->|  Paging   |
        Offset   |  Mechanism   |         | Mechanism |
      ---------->|              |         |           |
                 +--------------+         +-----------+
        Virtual                   Linear                Physical

快速总结:C地址是一个值,通常表示为具有特定类型的机器级内存地址。

非限定词“指针”有歧义。C语言有指针对象(变量)、指针类型、指针表达式和指针值。

使用“指针”这个词来表示“指针对象”是非常常见的,这可能会导致一些混淆——这就是为什么我试图将“指针”作为形容词而不是名词使用。

C标准,至少在某些情况下,使用“指针”这个词来表示“指针值”。例如,malloc的描述说它“返回空指针或指向已分配空间的指针”。

那么C中的地址是什么呢?它是一个指针值,即某个特定指针类型的值。(除了空指针值不一定被称为“地址”,因为它不是任何东西的地址)。

标准对一元&操作符的描述说它“产生其操作数的地址”。在C标准之外,单词“address”通常用于指(物理或虚拟)内存地址,通常是一个单词大小(无论给定系统上的“word”是什么)。

C“地址”通常实现为机器地址——就像C int值通常实现为机器字一样。但是C地址(指针值)不仅仅是一个机器地址。它是一个通常表示为机器地址的值,它是一个具有特定类型的值。