阅读Paul Graham关于编程语言的文章,你可能会认为Lisp宏是唯一的选择。作为一个忙碌的开发人员,在其他平台上工作,我还没有使用Lisp宏的特权。作为一个想要了解热门话题的人,请解释一下是什么让这个功能如此强大。

请将这一点与我从Python、Java、c#或C开发世界中理解的东西联系起来。


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While the above all explains what macros are and even have cool examples, I think the key difference between a macro and a normal function is that LISP evaluates all the parameters first before calling the function. With a macro it's the reverse, LISP passes the parameters unevaluated to the macro. For example, if you pass (+ 1 2) to a function, the function will receive the value 3. If you pass this to a macro, it will receive a List( + 1 2). This can be used to do all kinds of incredibly useful stuff.

Adding a new control structure, e.g. loop or the deconstruction of a list Measure the time it takes to execute a function passed in. With a function the parameter would be evaluated before control is passed to the function. With the macro, you can splice your code between the start and stop of your stopwatch. The below has the exact same code in a macro and a function and the output is very different. Note: This is a contrived example and the implementation was chosen so that it is identical to better highlight the difference. (defmacro working-timer (b) (let ( (start (get-universal-time)) (result (eval b))) ;; not splicing here to keep stuff simple ((- (get-universal-time) start)))) (defun my-broken-timer (b) (let ( (start (get-universal-time)) (result (eval b))) ;; doesn't even need eval ((- (get-universal-time) start)))) (working-timer (sleep 10)) => 10 (broken-timer (sleep 10)) => 0

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简单的语法=>宏over表达式=>简洁=>抽象=>强大


Lisp宏只是以编程方式编写代码。也就是说,在展开宏之后,您得到的只不过是没有宏的Lisp代码。所以,原则上来说,他们没有什么新成就。

然而,它们与其他编程语言中的宏不同,它们在表达式级别上编写代码,而其他宏在字符串级别上编写代码。这在lisp中是独一无二的,这要感谢他们的括号;或者更准确地说,它们的最小语法多亏了括号。

正如本文中的许多示例所示,以及Paul Graham的On Lisp, Lisp宏可以成为使代码更加简洁的工具。当简洁性达到一定程度时,它为代码提供了新的抽象级别,使其更加简洁。回到第一点,原则上他们没有提供任何新的东西,但这就像说既然纸和铅笔(几乎)组成了图灵机,我们就不需要真正的计算机。

如果你懂点数学,想想为什么函子和自然变换是有用的想法。原则上,它们没有提供任何新东西。然而,通过将它们扩展到较低层次的数学中,你会发现几个简单想法的组合(就范畴理论而言)可能需要10页才能写下来。你喜欢哪一种?

您将在这里找到关于lisp宏的全面辩论。

这篇文章的一个有趣的子集:

In most programming languages, syntax is complex. Macros have to take apart program syntax, analyze it, and reassemble it. They do not have access to the program's parser, so they have to depend on heuristics and best-guesses. Sometimes their cut-rate analysis is wrong, and then they break. But Lisp is different. Lisp macros do have access to the parser, and it is a really simple parser. A Lisp macro is not handed a string, but a preparsed piece of source code in the form of a list, because the source of a Lisp program is not a string; it is a list. And Lisp programs are really good at taking apart lists and putting them back together. They do this reliably, every day. Here is an extended example. Lisp has a macro, called "setf", that performs assignment. The simplest form of setf is (setf x whatever) which sets the value of the symbol "x" to the value of the expression "whatever". Lisp also has lists; you can use the "car" and "cdr" functions to get the first element of a list or the rest of the list, respectively. Now what if you want to replace the first element of a list with a new value? There is a standard function for doing that, and incredibly, its name is even worse than "car". It is "rplaca". But you do not have to remember "rplaca", because you can write (setf (car somelist) whatever) to set the car of somelist. What is really happening here is that "setf" is a macro. At compile time, it examines its arguments, and it sees that the first one has the form (car SOMETHING). It says to itself "Oh, the programmer is trying to set the car of somthing. The function to use for that is 'rplaca'." And it quietly rewrites the code in place to: (rplaca somelist whatever)

我不确定我能给每个人的(优秀的)帖子添加一些见解,但是……

Lisp宏工作得很好,因为Lisp语法的本质。

Lisp是一种非常规则的语言(把所有东西都想象成一个列表);宏使您能够将数据和代码视为相同的(不需要字符串解析或其他技巧来修改lisp表达式)。将这两个特性结合起来,就有了一种非常简洁的方式来修改代码。

编辑:我想说的是Lisp是同构的,这意味着Lisp程序的数据结构是用Lisp本身编写的。

因此,您最终可以在语言之上创建自己的代码生成器,使用语言本身的所有功能(例如。在Java中,你必须破解字节码编织的方法,尽管一些框架(如AspectJ)允许你使用不同的方法来做到这一点,但它基本上是一种破解)。

在实践中,使用宏可以在lisp的基础上构建自己的迷你语言,而不需要学习其他语言或工具,并使用语言本身的全部功能。

Lisp宏允许您决定何时(如果有的话)对任何部分或表达式求值。举个简单的例子,想想C语言:

expr1 && expr2 && expr3 ...

它说的是:计算expr1,并且,如果它是正确的,计算expr2,等等。

现在试着把这个&&变成一个函数…没错,你不能。像这样调用:

and(expr1, expr2, expr3)

将在产生答案之前评估所有三个表达式,而不管expr1是否为假!

使用lisp宏,你可以编写如下代码:

(defmacro && (expr1 &rest exprs)
    `(if ,expr1                     ;` Warning: I have not tested
         (&& ,@exprs)               ;   this and might be wrong!
         nil))

现在你有一个&&,你可以像函数一样调用它,它不会计算你传递给它的任何表单,除非它们都为真。

要了解这是如何有用的,请进行对比:

(&& (very-cheap-operation)
    (very-expensive-operation)
    (operation-with-serious-side-effects))

and:

and(very_cheap_operation(),
    very_expensive_operation(),
    operation_with_serious_side_effects());

你可以用宏做的其他事情是创建新的关键字和/或迷你语言(例如,查看(loop…)宏),将其他语言集成到lisp中,例如,你可以编写一个宏,让你这样说:

(setvar *rows* (sql select count(*)
                      from some-table
                     where column1 = "Yes"
                       and column2 like "some%string%")

这还没有涉及到Reader宏。

希望这能有所帮助。

想想在C或c++中可以用宏和模板做什么。它们是管理重复代码的非常有用的工具,但它们在相当严重的方面受到限制。

有限的宏/模板语法限制了它们的使用。例如,不能编写扩展为类或函数以外内容的模板。宏和模板不容易维护内部数据。 C和c++复杂且不规则的语法使得编写非常通用的宏非常困难。

Lisp和Lisp宏解决了这些问题。

Lisp宏是用Lisp编写的。您拥有Lisp的全部功能来编写宏。 Lisp有一个非常规则的语法。

与任何精通c++的人交谈,问他们花了多长时间来学习模板元编程所需的所有模板。或者是《现代c++设计》等(优秀)书籍中的所有疯狂技巧,尽管语言已经标准化了10年,但这些技巧仍然很难调试,而且(在实践中)无法在真实的编译器之间移植。如果用于元编程的语言与用于编程的语言相同,那么所有这些问题都消失了!