在HTML中,表格不应该用于布局,这似乎是普遍的观点。

Why?

我从来没有(老实说,很少)看到过支持这一点的有力论据。通常的答案是:

It's good to separate content from layoutBut this is a fallacious argument; Cliche Thinking. I guess it's true that using the table element for layout has little to do with tabular data. So what? Does my boss care? Do my users care?Perhaps me or my fellow developers who have to maintain a web page care... Is a table less maintainable? I think using a table is easier than using divs and CSS.By the way... why is using a div or a span good separation of content from layout and a table not? Getting a good layout with only divs often requires a lot of nested divs. Readability of the codeI think it's the other way around. Most people understand HTML, few understand CSS. It's better for SEO not to use tablesWhy? Can anybody show some evidence that it is? Or a statement from Google that tables are discouraged from an SEO perspective? Tables are slower.An extra tbody element has to be inserted. This is peanuts for modern web browsers. Show me some benchmarks where the use of a table significantly slows down a page. A layout overhaul is easier without tables, see css Zen Garden.Most web sites that need an upgrade need new content (HTML) as well. Scenarios where a new version of a web site only needs a new CSS file are not very likely. Zen Garden is a nice web site, but a bit theoretical. Not to mention its misuse of CSS.

我对使用divs + CSS而不是表的良好参数非常感兴趣。


当前回答

CSS/DIV - it's just jobs for the design boys, isn't it. The hundreds of hours I've spent debugging DIV/CSS issues, searching the Internet to get some part of markup working with an obscure browser - it drives me mad. You make one little change and the whole layout goes horrendously wrong - where on eath is the logic in that. Spending hours moving something 3 pixels this way then something else 2 pixels the other to get them all to line up. This just seems plain wrong to me somehow. Just because you're a purist and something is "not the right thing to do" doesn't mean you should make use of it to the nth degree and under all circumstances, especially if it makes your life 1000 times easier.

So I've finally decided, purely on commercial grounds, although I keep use to minimum, if I anticipate 20 hours work to get a DIV placed correctly, I'll stick in a table. It's wrong, it upsets the purists, but in most cases it costs less time and is cheaper to manage. I can then concentrate on getting the application working as the customer wants, rather than pleasing the purists. They do pay the bills after all and my argument to a manager enforcing the use of CSS/DIV - I would merely point out the customers pay his salary as well!

所有这些CSS/DIV争论出现的唯一原因是因为CSS的缺点,首先是因为浏览器之间不兼容,如果它们相互兼容,世界上一半的网页设计师将失业。

When you design a windows form you don't try moving controls around after you have laid them out so I kind of think it's strange to me why you would you want to do this with a web form. I simply can't understand this logic. Get the layout right to start with and what's the problem. I think it's because designers like to flirt with creativity, whilst application developers are more concerned with actually getting the application working, creating business objects, implementing business rules, working out how bits of customer data relates to each other, ensuring the thing meets the customers requirements - you know - like the real world stuff.

不要误解我的意思,这两种观点都是正确的,但是请不要因为开发人员选择了一种更简单、更合乎逻辑的方式来设计表单而批评他们。我们常常有比正确使用表而不是div的语义更重要的事情要担心。

在这个讨论的基础上,我将一些现有的tds和trs转换为div。花了45分钟把它弄得乱七八糟想把所有东西都排列整齐然后我就放弃了。td在10秒后回来-工作-立即-在所有浏览器上,没有更多的事情要做。请试着让我明白——你有什么理由让我用其他方式做这件事!

其他回答

无论如何,这并不是一个明确的论点,但是对于CSS,你可以使用相同的标记并根据介质改变布局,这是一个很好的优势。例如,对于打印页面,您可以安静地抑制导航,而不必创建打印机友好的页面。

内容和布局之间的分离也使它更容易为您的网站生成打印机友好的布局或不同的皮肤(样式),而不必创建不同的html文件。有些浏览器(如Firefox)甚至支持从视图菜单中选择样式表。

而且我确实认为保持无表格布局更容易。你不需要担心行span, colspan等等。您只需创建一些容器div并将内容放置在需要的位置。也就是说,我认为它也更有可读性(<div id="sidebar"> vs <tr><td>…</td><td>…<td>sidebar</td></tr>)。

这只是一个你必须学会的小“技巧”(一旦你掌握了这个技巧,我认为它会更容易,更有意义)。

如果你在这方面支持表格角度,找一个有表格的网站,然后给自己买一个屏幕阅读器——关掉屏幕阅读器,关掉你的显示器。

然后尝试一个不错的语义正确的div布局网站。

你会发现其中的不同。

如果表格中的数据是表格而不是为了布局页面,那么表格并不是邪恶的。

对我来说,一个巨大的问题是,表,特别是嵌套表,需要更长的时间来呈现比一个正确布局的css实现。(你可以让css一样慢)。

所有浏览器呈现css的速度都更快,因为每个div都是一个单独的元素,所以用户在阅读时可以加载屏幕。(对于庞大的数据集等)。我在那个实例中使用了css而不是表格,甚至没有处理布局。

嵌套的表(单元格中的表等)直到找到最后一个“/table”才会呈现到浏览器窗口。更糟糕的是,定义不清的表有时甚至无法呈现!或者当它发生的时候,事情就会不正常。(没有正确地与“TD”等共进)

我在大多数情况下使用表格,但当涉及到大数据和希望为最终用户快速呈现屏幕时,我尽最大努力利用CSS所提供的东西。

围绕语义标记的整个思想是标记和表示的分离,其中包括布局。

Div并没有取代表,它们在将内容分离为相关内容块(,)方面有自己的用途。当您不具备这些技能并且依赖于表格时,您通常必须将内容分离到单元格中以获得所需的布局,但是在使用语义标记时,您不需要触摸标记来实现表示。在生成标记而不是静态页面时,这一点非常重要。

开发人员需要停止提供暗示布局的标记,以便我们这些拥有显示内容技能的人能够继续工作,并且开发人员不必在表示需要更改时返回他们的代码进行更改。