在HTML中,表格不应该用于布局,这似乎是普遍的观点。

Why?

我从来没有(老实说,很少)看到过支持这一点的有力论据。通常的答案是:

It's good to separate content from layoutBut this is a fallacious argument; Cliche Thinking. I guess it's true that using the table element for layout has little to do with tabular data. So what? Does my boss care? Do my users care?Perhaps me or my fellow developers who have to maintain a web page care... Is a table less maintainable? I think using a table is easier than using divs and CSS.By the way... why is using a div or a span good separation of content from layout and a table not? Getting a good layout with only divs often requires a lot of nested divs. Readability of the codeI think it's the other way around. Most people understand HTML, few understand CSS. It's better for SEO not to use tablesWhy? Can anybody show some evidence that it is? Or a statement from Google that tables are discouraged from an SEO perspective? Tables are slower.An extra tbody element has to be inserted. This is peanuts for modern web browsers. Show me some benchmarks where the use of a table significantly slows down a page. A layout overhaul is easier without tables, see css Zen Garden.Most web sites that need an upgrade need new content (HTML) as well. Scenarios where a new version of a web site only needs a new CSS file are not very likely. Zen Garden is a nice web site, but a bit theoretical. Not to mention its misuse of CSS.

我对使用divs + CSS而不是表的良好参数非常感兴趣。


当前回答

CSS/DIV - it's just jobs for the design boys, isn't it. The hundreds of hours I've spent debugging DIV/CSS issues, searching the Internet to get some part of markup working with an obscure browser - it drives me mad. You make one little change and the whole layout goes horrendously wrong - where on eath is the logic in that. Spending hours moving something 3 pixels this way then something else 2 pixels the other to get them all to line up. This just seems plain wrong to me somehow. Just because you're a purist and something is "not the right thing to do" doesn't mean you should make use of it to the nth degree and under all circumstances, especially if it makes your life 1000 times easier.

So I've finally decided, purely on commercial grounds, although I keep use to minimum, if I anticipate 20 hours work to get a DIV placed correctly, I'll stick in a table. It's wrong, it upsets the purists, but in most cases it costs less time and is cheaper to manage. I can then concentrate on getting the application working as the customer wants, rather than pleasing the purists. They do pay the bills after all and my argument to a manager enforcing the use of CSS/DIV - I would merely point out the customers pay his salary as well!

所有这些CSS/DIV争论出现的唯一原因是因为CSS的缺点,首先是因为浏览器之间不兼容,如果它们相互兼容,世界上一半的网页设计师将失业。

When you design a windows form you don't try moving controls around after you have laid them out so I kind of think it's strange to me why you would you want to do this with a web form. I simply can't understand this logic. Get the layout right to start with and what's the problem. I think it's because designers like to flirt with creativity, whilst application developers are more concerned with actually getting the application working, creating business objects, implementing business rules, working out how bits of customer data relates to each other, ensuring the thing meets the customers requirements - you know - like the real world stuff.

不要误解我的意思,这两种观点都是正确的,但是请不要因为开发人员选择了一种更简单、更合乎逻辑的方式来设计表单而批评他们。我们常常有比正确使用表而不是div的语义更重要的事情要担心。

在这个讨论的基础上,我将一些现有的tds和trs转换为div。花了45分钟把它弄得乱七八糟想把所有东西都排列整齐然后我就放弃了。td在10秒后回来-工作-立即-在所有浏览器上,没有更多的事情要做。请试着让我明白——你有什么理由让我用其他方式做这件事!

其他回答

超级简单的回答:用表格设计可维护的网站是很困难的,而用标准的方法来做是很简单的。

网站不是一个表格,它是相互交互的组件的集合。把它描述成一个表是没有意义的。

我想这事已经过去了。如果你看看行业的发展方向,你会发现CSS和开放标准是这场讨论的赢家。这反过来意味着对于大多数html工作,除了表单,设计师将使用div而不是表格。我很难做到这一点,因为我不是CSS专家,但事实就是这样。

我没有对DIVs有利的论据。

我会说:如果事实属实,那就接受吧。

值得注意的是,要找到一种好的DIV+CSS方法来在两列或三列中呈现内容,并且在所有浏览器上都是一致的,并且看起来仍然是我想要的方式,即使不是不可能,也是很困难的。

在我的大多数布局中,这让平衡感向表格倾斜了一点,尽管我对使用它们感到内疚(不知道为什么,人们只是说它不好,所以我试着听他们的),最后,务实的观点是,对我来说,使用表格更容易、更快。我不是按小时计酬的,所以桌子对我来说比较便宜。

CSS布局通常在可访问性方面要好得多,前提是内容以自然的顺序出现,并且没有样式表也有意义。不仅仅是屏幕阅读器难以适应基于表格的布局:它们也使移动浏览器更难正确呈现页面。

此外,使用基于div的布局,你可以很容易地用打印样式表做一些很酷的事情,比如从打印页面中排除页眉、页脚和导航——我认为这是不可能的,或者至少很难用基于表格的布局做到这一点。

If you're doubting that separation of content from layout is easier with divs than with tables, take a look at the div-based HTML at CSS Zen Garden, see how changing the stylesheets can drastically change the layout, and think about whether you could achieve the same variety of layouts if the HTML was table based... If you're doing a table-based layout, you're unlikely to be using CSS to control all the spacing and padding in the cells (if you were, you'd almost certainly find it easier to use floating divs etc. in the first place). Without using CSS to control all that, and because of the fact that tables specify the left-to-right and top-to bottom order of things in the HTML, tables tend to mean that your layout becomes very much fixed in the HTML.

实际上,我认为完全改变一个基于div和css的设计而不改变div是非常困难的。然而,使用基于div和css的布局,就更容易调整不同块之间的间距以及它们的相对大小。

布局的灵活性 想象一下,您正在创建一个带有大量缩略图的页面。 div: 如果你把每个缩略图放在DIV中,向左浮动,可能一行有10个缩略图。让窗口变窄,BAM -它是一行6个,或者2个,或者其他合适的。 表: 你必须明确地说一行中有多少单元格。如果窗口太窄,用户必须水平滚动。

可维护性 和上面的情况一样。现在要向第三行添加三个缩略图。 div: 把它们加进去。布局会自动调整。 表: 将新单元格粘贴到第三行。哦!现在那里的商品太多了。从那一行切一些,放在第四行。现在那里的商品太多了。从那一行切一些……(等) (当然,如果您使用服务器端脚本生成行和单元格,这可能不是问题。)