昨天我看了一个关于Java Server Faces 2.0的演示,它看起来确实令人印象深刻,尽管我现在是一个快乐的ASP。asp.net MVC / jQuery开发。我最喜欢JSF的地方是它有大量支持ajax的UI组件,这使得开发比使用ASP要快得多。NET MVC,特别是在ajax较多的站点上。集成测试看起来也很不错。
由于这个演示只强调了JSF的优点,所以我也想听听其他方面的情况。
所以我的问题是:
Java Server Faces 2.0的主要缺点是什么?
什么会使JSF开发人员考虑使用ASP。NET MVC而不是JSF?
Inexperienced developers usually will create applications that are painfully slow and code will be really ugly and hard to maintain. Its deceptively simple to start, but actually requires some investment in learning if you want to write good programs.
At least at the start you will often "stuck" on some problem and will spend more time reading balusc posts on internet than actually working :) After a while it will be less and less of that, but it still can be annoying.
Even more annoying when you find out that the problem is not due to you lack of knowledge/mistake but actually a bug. Mojarra was(is?) quite buggy, and another layer of components adds even more problems. Richfaces was biggest piece of crap software ever written :) Don't know how it is now on version 4. We have Primefaces which is better, but still you will run into bugs or lack of features especially with more exotic components. And now you will need to pay for Primefaces updates. So I would say its buggy but its getting better especially after 2.2 version fixed some problems with spec. Framework getting more mature but still far from perfect (maybe myfaces better?).
I don't find it especially flexible. Often if you need something very very customized and there are no components that does that - it will be a bit painful. Again I'm talking from average developer perspective - the one with deadlines, quick reading tutorials, and searching stackoverflow when getting stuck because no time to learn how it really works :) Often some components seems to have "almost" what you need, but not exactly and sometimes you might spend too much time to make it do something you want :) Need to be careful in evaluating if its better to create your own or torture existing component. Actually if you are creating something really unique I would not recommend JSF.
简而言之,我的缺点是:复杂,开发过程不流畅,漏洞百出,缺乏灵活性。
当然也有好处,但这不是你问的。不管怎样,这是我使用框架的经验,其他人可能有不同的意见,所以最好的方法是尝试一段时间,看看它是否适合你(只是一些更复杂的东西-不是天真的例子- JSF真的很出色:)依我看,JSF的最佳用例是业务应用程序,如crm等…
I'm not a Java Server Faces expert at all. But IMHO the main disadvantage is that it's server side. I'm tired of learning and using server side web presentation layer frameworks like ASP.NET Web Forms, ASP.NET MVC, Java Server Faces, Struts, php frameworks and ruby on rails frameworks. I said goodbye to all of them, and I said hello to Angularjs and TypeScript. My presentation layer runs on the browser. I doesn't matter if it is served by Windows IIS running php or ASP.NET, or if it is served by an Apache web server running on Linux. I just need to learn just one framework that works everywhere.
这只是我的个人意见。
对我来说,JSF 2.0最大的缺点不仅是JSF的学习曲线,而且是为了让它做有用的工作而必须使用的组件库。想想你要真正精通需要处理的数量惊人的规范和标准:
HTML in the various incarnations. Don't pretend you don't need to know it.
HTTP -- when you can't figure out what is going on you have to open Firebug and see. For that you need to know this.
CSS -- Like it or not. It isn't so bad really and there are some nice tools out there at least.
XML -- JSF will probably the first place you use namespaces to this degree.
Servlet Specification. Sooner or later you will get into calling methods in this package. Aside from that you have to know how your Facelets gets turned into XHTML or whatever.
JSP (mostly so you know why you don't need it in JSF)
JSTL (again, mostly to cope with legacy framework)
Expression Language (EL) in its various forms.
ECMAScript, JavaScript, or whatever else you want to call it.
JSON -- you should know this even if you don't use it.
AJAX. I would say JSF 2.0 does a decent job of hiding this from you but you still need to know what is going on.
The DOM. And how a browser uses it. See ECMAScript.
DOM Events -- a topic all by itself.
Java Persistence Architecture (JPA) that is if you want your app to have any back end data base.
Java itself.
JSEE while you are at it.
The Context Dependency Injection specification (CDI) and how it clashes with and is used with JSF 2.0
JQuery -- I would like to see you get along without it.
现在,一旦你完成了这些,你就可以继续使用专有规范,即你将在此过程中获得的组件库和提供者库:
PrimeFaces(我选择的组件库)
RichFaces
MyFaces
ICEFaces
EclipseLink(我的JPA提供者)
Hibernate
焊接
别忘了容器!所有这些配置文件:
GlassFish(2,3等)
JBoss
Tomcat
那么——这让事情变得简单了吗?当然,JSF 2.0很“简单”,只要你想做的只是最基本的web页面和最简单的交互。
简单地说,JSF 2.0是当今软件界所存在的最复杂和最麻烦的技术大杂烩。我想不出还有什么更好的方法。
我们使用JSF开发了一个示例项目(这是一个为期三周的研究,所以我们可能会丢失一些东西!)
我们尝试使用核心jsf,如果需要组件,我们使用PrimeFaces。
该项目是一个带有导航功能的网站。当点击菜单时,每个页面都应该通过ajax加载。
该网站有两个用例:
带有网格的页面。网格是通过ajax加载的,应该支持排序和分页
一个三步向导页面。每个页面都有客户端验证(用于简单验证)和服务器端ajax基础验证(用于复杂验证)。任何服务器异常(来自服务层)应该显示在向导的同一页上,而不需要导航到下一页。
我们发现:
You need to use some hacks from omniFaces to make the JSF view state fixed. The JSF state will be corrupted when you include pages via ajax in each other. This seems a bug in JSF and may be fixed on next releases (not in 2.3).
The JSF Flow is not working correctly with ajax (or we could not make it work!) We try to use primeface wizard component instead but the client validation seems not supported and mean while it was not standard JSF flow standard.
When using some jQuery components like jqGird, and you need to load JSON results, then you are advised to use pure servlet, The JSF will do nothing for you. So if you use these kind of components, your design will not fit in JSF.
We try to do some client scripts when ajax complete by ajaxComplete and we found that the PF 4 has implemented its own ajax events. We had some jQuery components and we need to change their code.
如果您将上面的示例更改为非Ajax项目(或至少是较少的Ajax项目),您将不会面临上述许多问题。
我们将我们的研究总结为:
JSF在一个完全基于ajax的网站上不能很好地工作。
当然,我们发现JSF中有很多不错的特性,这些特性在某些项目中可能非常有用,所以请考虑您的项目需求。
请参考JSF技术文档来回顾JSF的优点,在我看来JSF最大的优点是来自@BalusC的完全和巨大的支持;-)
For me the biggest shortcoming of JSF is poor support for programmatically (dynamically) generated pages.
If you want to construct your page (create page component model) dynamically from java code. For example if you are working on WYSIWYG web page constructor. Adequate documentation of this use case in not generally available. There are many points where you have to experiment and development is quiet slow. Many things just don't work how you would expect. But generally its possible hack it somehow.
Good thing is that it's not problem in philosophy or architecture of JSF. It's simply not elaborated enough (as far as I know).
JSF 2带来了组合组件,这将使组件开发变得容易,但是它们对动态(编程式)构造的支持非常差。如果你克服了动态组合组件构造的复杂且几乎没有文档的过程,你会发现如果你把几个组合组件嵌套得稍微深一点,它们就会停止工作,抛出一些异常。
但是JSF社区似乎意识到了这个缺点。你可以从这两个bug中看到,他们正在研究这个
http://java.net/jira/browse/JAVASERVERFACES-1309
http://java.net/jira/browse/JAVASERVERFACES_SPEC_PUBLIC-599
至少在谈论规范时,JSF 2.2的情况会更好。